Roland & Studio Electronics new boutique analog synth

[dante]

And now there's this one as well from the Roland Boutique Bucket Brigade :

D-05

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[garyb]

that's great.
the very thing people got rid of is now in fashion as "vintage". i really like the D series, but you couldn't give the old ones away and Roland stopped stocking a lot of the parts. now it's boutique.

[dawman]

Mine just shipped.
I loved the quality of the SE-02 so much I had to get another.
Solaris Joystick will be mapped to the D-05.
I can make blank Solaris presets and just use its controllers or blend both synths.
Anxious to see what parameters I can control using the Ribbon controller on Solaris.
Don't remember a Filter on the D-50....

[garyb]

well, who would want to program the thing?
maybe if you had a https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXaRJDgyvPo

[Marco]

I have bought a Roland D550, and it is the original for 250 bucks. Why should I pay 350 dollars or 425 Euros in Europe for a tiny remake coming out of the wash machine shrinked after the cook washing program. Now equipped with Moderne AD converters for extra clean and smooth non antialising sound.

Where is the original sound I loved for so long?

[garyb]

I have bought a Roland D550, and it is the original for 250 bucks. Why should I pay 350 dollars or 425 Euros in Europe for a tiny remake coming out of the wash machine shrinked after the cook washing program.

that's what i was thinking. these companies have no respect for their customers, dropping a product as obsolete, then re-releasing it as a revelation...

[dawman]

Only old boars like us drag racks around though.
Plus the pristine version sounds even better than the weak ass V-Synth D50 Card.

Hey if it sucks I put in the closet and wait for juniors birthday...
I tell him it's great.

[dante]

I had the desktop version MT32 - does that qualify as Boutique ?

MT32

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I also had a Yamaha TX81Z that was famous because it had ancient Egyptian tunings - which - I used about once. It was also famous for having waveform other than sine. At the time I thought the whole thing about FM was you could make whatever you wanted out of sines without having any others

TX81Z

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I never had an actual analog synth or module because we were told in 80th that digital could do it all and anyway I could make a saw wave by stacking odd DX7 oscillators that sounded kinda analog so I didn't need a JP8 Anyway when it came out the John Bowen Solaris was the top of the range mother fracken bad ass synth of them all for the next decade, and had its own website with keyboardists frothing over every knob and ribbon a year before its release. Now its a controller for shrunken washing machine boutiques

[dawman]

Just found out my D-05 has not shipped.
I did get a payment receipt but not until November now.
That's okay.
I got plenty of stuff to learn.
I gig on Monday nights now in a big Tower of Power kind of horn Band.
Sat in tonight and replace the guy heading off to Asia for a gig with a Chinese Celine Dion.
I get 6 days off to play my rig, swim, smoke legal weed from hell, etc.

I call this Scope Heaven.
New SpaceF mixers next month, time to use DNA updated FX....

FUCKIN A........

[braincell]

The SE-02 USB Audio is not high quality. They shouldn't have bothered to have that. Record it and compare to the live output and you'll see. I don't mind because the price of this unit is very good. The switch knobs are too stiff but I will make a Cubase Expression Map for these. This will allow me to jump to the positions I want rather than having to go through the middle ones.

Here's a better manual:

[dawman]

Im using 3.5mm jacks for CV and audio.
USB for the editor is probably a better use.

Sunshine Jones manual is pretty good.
I think the more one experiments and plays, the hidden treats will be discovered.

[dawman]

More Dogs that hunt.

[Marco]

Your link contains a stupid casino advertisement. I hate online casinos, they're criminals.

[dawman]

Just like the ones I work for...

[Marco]

They give you the illusion that they give you money for nothing, but you give money for nothing, this is the truth.

They always find a few stupidos out there. They are criminals.

[Bud Weiser]

well, who would want to program the thing?
maybe if you had a https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXaRJDgyvPo

I used 2 Roland D-550 and a PG1000 programmer.

The PG1000 was the item I sold 1st !!!!!!
Now I´m using 1 Roland D550 w/ new mask ROM processor inside and all tact switches replaced,- not to forget to mention the Musitronics "speed kit" and memory expansion installed.

When you own a D50 or D550,- you need Steinberg Synthworks D50 application for ATARI ST.
Try to find at ebay w/ some patience.

Buying an ATARI 1040ST (the formerly cheapest) should be no biggie also ...

I understand we´re living in the world of tech progress, but I also UNDERSTOOD, when you own old gear, you should also own old computers running old apps to serve that gear best !

It´s the same w/ SCOPE,- for the time being, you better use old computers w/ Z97 mobos and Win 7.
But I´m pretty sure, actual SCOPE runs absolutely flawlessly w/ Win XP and something older machines as well.
Just sayin´ ...

When owning old synths like DX7, TX816, D-50 and 550, Korg M-1/M1R. Wavestation etc., or Ensonique and so on,- for bank management and in depth editing, use old apps.

It´s the way I do it.

Bud

[Bud Weiser]

I have bought a Roland D550, and it is the original for 250 bucks. Why should I pay 350 dollars or 425 Euros in Europe for a tiny remake coming out of the wash machine shrinked after the cook washing program. Now equipped with Moderne AD converters for extra clean and smooth non antialising sound.

Where is the original sound I loved for so long?

That´s all correct until you need the mask ROM processor as a replacement.
I myself found one somewhere w/ help of a keyboard tech of a very famous band touring around the globe.
I searched for about 1 1/2 years,- and it´s about 2 years ago !!!
Fortunately my former roadie is working for that band since 2005,- so I got mine working again, but I fear that was the last time.
Normally, no one will do that search for a single chip for you, regardless who you are.
That chip is very special,- at a 1st glance it´s a stock NEC chip, but it´s equipped w/ some special Roland software,- nowhere available because Roland doesn´t have it in stock anymore.
The mask ROM processor is MUCH harder to find than any FX processor chip in a D50/550.

The boutique stuff is cool when you want that synth architecture today and cannot repair or replace your original device.
There´s no software or hardware replica available because the samples used in D50/550 are copy protected. What else ?
The only exception is the original Roland cloud based VSTi and some sample sets covering the most famous patches only, but that´s not the synth.
That said, I myself never had interest in the original factory patches at all.

Who´s interested in "Digital Native Dance" or the other crap ?
Cover bands only I think ...

Bud

[Marco]

Hi Budweiser, you went a long way to repair your old love! Nice to hear that interesting story about you and your D-50.
I have the DX7, TX816, D-50 and 550, Korg M-1/M1R. Wavestation etc., or Ensonique and some others. I use old software and old computers to edit. I like the sound of the 80 and 90ties. I think I am not the time behind, I am the time ahead because the people come back to the old times like a boomerang.

Roland knows this, that's why the boutique series was born. Nice idea, no progress just going back and reproduce by copying there self again.

Users are stupid and sell there old equipment today and buy the latest boutique fake in mini format and a magnifying Glas and a tweezer to operate. They use vst synthesizers with mouse operator interface and 2500 preset sounds, but they are not really creative because they are slayed by 2500 presets, they can not decide which sound is the best.
I think I use my old machines like a cook, I add this an that and some fx here and some dynamic after and that it is good workflow.
But it is no shame to use vst, I use the advantage of total recall and easy usage to.
And the Roland d005 has these many presets, that's good for young people to use.

[Mr Arkadin]

Oddly enough the D-05 is the only Boutique that interests me. The others are too small for the controls they contain, whereas this isn't going to be programmed from the panel anyway so can be treated as a sound module.

Always fancied a D-50 (had a D-10 briefly - it was shit. Preferred the MT-32 my band-mate had). The D-05 includes loads of extra banks, plus I've already downloaded loads of zips with tons of sounds included.

Would like to know what you think Jimmy, old boy.

[braincell]

Roland knows this, that's why the boutique series was born. Nice idea, no progress just going back and reproduce by copying there self again.

This is not true of the SE-02. The knob size is not a problem for me but it's so easy and inexpensive to add as many knobs and/or sliders as you want. I had a friend use it and he has a degenerative nerve disease yet he had no problems with the knobs at all. You only have to play this thing for a couple of minutes to realize how good it is. I believe the smallness helped keep the price down which for me is good.