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 Post subject: Brexit
PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2016 1:26 pm 
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The britisch are not stupid anymore.
Germany gets destroyed by open doors no passport controlles against organized crime. And welcome to all refugees islamists etc.

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 Post subject: Re: Brexit
PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2016 3:19 pm 
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anabella wrote:
The britisch are not stupid anymore

The British? 48% of the voters voted against Brexit...

In exchange for control on immigration Britain risks a lot.
It could mean a Pyrrhus victory on the long run.
I'm curious what the next two years will bring, regarding prosperity :)


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 Post subject: Re: Brexit
PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2016 3:32 pm 
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in what way does the EU actually benefit anyone?
it's a cockroach that needs to be exterminated.

just my opinion. you're entitled to yours.


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 Post subject: Re: Brexit
PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2016 4:57 pm 
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garyb wrote:
in what way does the EU actually benefit anyone?
it's a cockroach that needs to be exterminated.

just my opinion. you're entitled to yours.


It's a benefit when you can travel freely. Of course, they would have a problem if they restrict that. A lot of their best young talent might move to the eu and stay.


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 Post subject: Re: Brexit
PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2016 5:05 pm 
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oh well.
convenience is nice, but it isn't everything.
countries can open or close borders as they see fit. it's part of maintaining a nice place.


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 Post subject: Re: Brexit
PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2016 5:13 pm 
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@ Garyb
Sorry, I don't argue with the moderator about society and politics.

It's useless to argue with a pure conspicacy adept anyway.
You hate any gouvernment or political authority, democraticly chosen or not.
'A cockroach needed to be terminated' says it all.


It's useless, and not interesting, as there are no specific arguments pro or contra, only a generic template layed over reality.
Maybe others like to discus with you, enjoy :)


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 Post subject: Re: Brexit
PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2016 5:36 pm 
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garyb wrote:
in what way does the EU actually benefit anyone?
it's a cockroach that needs to be exterminated.

just my opinion. you're entitled to yours.


Well, my opinion in that case, is that all that is happening it is absolutely in purpose.

Many poor places in the world have had terrible problems in the past, for decades and decades, why these people didn’t help them BEFORE today? Why they didn’t bring them to Europe before today, if suffering was the same or even worse in the past?

Suddenly, the extreme cold and selfish politicians behind multinationals and globalism, want to show themselves as been sweet, benevolent and caring… Yeah, sure! I don’t believe a word of what they say to us.

What I believe firmly, is that they are getting ready the huge economic collapse they have been engineering for such a long time now. Europe will fall, and this will lead to the war I have been talking for such a long time already.

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 Post subject: Re: Brexit
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you know what. blank, blank, blank to you, too Hubird.
i know you can't stand free people or free thought.

you can argue with the moderator all you want until it becomes the wrong kind of personal, just like EVERYONE ELSE.

so there.

my opinion is the the EU is designed to take freedoms while promising freedoms. it's just my opinion. it certainly is convenient, i know.

by the way, i don't hate authority. i just don't blindly trust that it cares about me or mine in any way. i don't have any problem with organization of government. it's needed to keep the toilets running safely. those people are not my betters, nor my masters.


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 Post subject: Re: Brexit
PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2016 5:43 pm 
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@ Nestor, maybe Europe will 'fall' once, but Argentina is already falling apart already.
Your own papers are warning for it :)


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 Post subject: Re: Brexit
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yes, crappy rulers are in every country, but they do the worst things in places that have been colonized.


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 Post subject: Re: Brexit
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hubird wrote:
@ Nestor, maybe Europe will 'fall' once, but Argentina is already falling apart already.
Your own papers are warning for it :)


A man realizes somebody is falling down to earth, worried about possible injuries, he approaches the person and tells him: Can I help you, are you alright? And the idiot in the floor says: “One day, you will also fall like me!” The man trying to help goes away in amazement, wandering about how stupid the fallen one, the one in the floor, was… He entirely misunderstood the whish for “help” as a “competition”... God, there are seek people out there!

How can you relate what I have said about Europe with Argentina? Do you think this is a warship game? Do you think I am happy with what is happening to Europe? How ridiculous your thoughts can be! For God sake! How ridiculous can they be! :o

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 Post subject: Re: Brexit
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Nestor, you predicted the end of the world by the huge visitor coming to us.
Only 2 1/2 year is left, according to your own 100% sure prognose.
Now, will Europe fall apart within 2 1/2 year, which is highly unlikely, or does your Nibiru disaster get delayed, and why then?


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 Post subject: Re: Brexit
PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2016 7:27 pm 
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Missed you last post :)

You are right, it's not a competition between what countries will fall first.
But it's strange that you concentrate on everything except your own society.

I mentioned already that accusing immigrants for being a raper gang is rather weird considering that your own country suffers from a real rape culture.
Not that you in that case are not entitled to accuse other people of being rapers, but it gets suspect if you don't relate this to the remarkable phenomenon in your own society.
If you had known everyone knew this you wouldn't have kept this silent, isn't it?

It's like someone who is actually getting robbed is extensively warning everyone in the world to be cautius for getting robbed.
Don't you see?

But then, tell us, what comes first, Nibiru or the collapse of the EU?
It's one or the other, on logical grounds.
Unless you're going for the title of Master of Disaster...


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 Post subject: Re: Brexit
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garyb wrote:
...it's a cockroach...


https://youtu.be/q2sn7uIcE5s


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 Post subject: Re: Brexit
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:lol:
i don't know how to take that...
good show.


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 Post subject: Re: Brexit
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garyb wrote:
in what way does the EU actually benefit anyone?
it's a cockroach that needs to be exterminated.

just my opinion. you're entitled to yours.


The EU is just a big Sociolism monster that's only growing more powerfull overtime while countries in it grow weaker with less and less sovereignty. Sociolism ultimately only benefit the ones who run that system and almost everyone else ends up poor. The EU is a counter to democracy and civil-liberties and self-determination, it ultimately robs people of their own country cause when you look up your country is filled with foreigners and some are the most uncultured and immoral people.

It's countries like Britain that's holding the EU together and Great Britain was giving far more money to the EU than it was getting back. Plus the UK/Great Britain had 3 million people from other EU nations living and working in the UK but only had 1.3 million of its own living abroad in other EU nations. Then there's terrorism, multi-culturalism and refugee problems that Britain's people also was looking at. Great Britain is one of the smartest nations that has ever been on earth when looking all threw-out its time and the world's time so it does not surprise me that they are the nation to start the dominoes to fall in the EU. It was the elders in the UK that primarily voted to leave the EU and this is because often the elders know best. The elders wasn't born and raised in these modern times like the millennials and thus the elders are often raised better with common-sense and better values.

France's leader refuses to have a referendum, wich is the proof of the nature of the EU/Sociolism/soon-to-be-communism monster. He knows that the majority of the people don't want the EU once they've had a good look at it and what it means. He and others are scared of a democratic vote on the EU but it's too late either way, the dominoes have began to fall. Sociolist ungodly systems never last long or you ultimately live like third-world. Just look at Venezuela wich is sociolism, chavez was taking from peter to give to paul and everything seemed fine at first since the poor was doing better at first, but ultimately the nation is now in serious troubles as poverty is more widespread and the richest person in that nation is the late chavez's daughter :roll: .

Sociolism ultimately has to be forced on people in order to extend its life this is why some countries in the EU don't want a Referendum. With the EU taxation grows heavier and heavier and member nations peoples self-determination/sovereignty grows less and less. People ultimately get fed up with these type political-systems cause simply put they don't work. Communism, socialism, radical-Theocracies, etc don't work. Great Britain is one of the richest and most powerfullest nations right now and one of the smartest nations threw-out this worlds history, no surprise that they are the first nation in the EU to wake-up and leave. The elders know what made Britain Great and thus the elders saved the Nation.

Hopefully we get a epiphany here in the USA and change our 2 party political system, I'm sure we will at some point. People just have to get fed up from the consequences from operating foolishly. Our Nation is growing more into Sociolism as time passes with Obamacare, mass refugees and illegal immigration programs, etc.

When other nations in the EU are given a referendum other nations will leave as well, and without the UK's money and support the ugly monster will be more clearly seen by more people. The only thing happening to the EU is the inevitable. They can pretend such systems work fine but time always tell other-wise and they know it, this is why many don't want referendums.


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 Post subject: Re: Brexit
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Great post Sounddesigner :)

Well, it's clear that you attribute all today's problems to socialism, instead of, for example, globalisation, too much failstates around, a growing distance between the political and cultural elite and the masses, etc.

Two remarks:
1. You consequently write sociolism instead of socialism.
Is that intentionaly?
Does it mean something?
2. Do you use the term socialism when you mean social democracy?
Because we in Europe by far don't have socialistic states.
Health care isn't socialism, it's just common sense.

I've read lately that it's remarkable that young Americans don't care anymore to be labled with 'social' or 'socialist' as a consequence of supporting Bernie Sanders.
They just want a more social America.
According to you they are mislead, and the elder know better.
But the tendency is there, 'social' isn't a dirty word anymore, and Sanders wasn't chanceless at all.
Second-next elections could be a break trough regarding this proces.
I know there's a difference between the country side and the cosmopolitical city regions, like everywhere in the world, but it's also true that the movement to the cities is a worldwide phenomenon.
The Republican party is said to be suffering from that effect.
Do you think all these developments won't change America?
The elder will die sooner anyway, so that doesn't help much.


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 Post subject: Re: Brexit
PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 5:58 am 
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anabella wrote:
The britisch are not stupid anymore.
Germany gets destroyed by open doors no passport controlles against organized crime. And welcome to all refugees islamists etc.


Can I have the "Deutsche Mark" back,- and "The Wall" as well ?

Since the golden times of music biz are over, I´d probably get better chances as a construction company.
Re-building the wall is work for years.
And ditch wage floor as well !
Many refugees will get work then,- as 1-DM jobbers by nature.

But can be, we´d get back Reich Labour Service https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichsarbeitsdienst,- so no chance for big money,...
And when we do,- no electronic music anymore,- Schuhplattler (a type of Bavarian folk dance performed by male dancers) instead.

Shit !

The accordion will have a renaissance again and the only company having quick profit will be NORD.

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:lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Brexit
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Some Texans want to succeed. That would be just as idiotic. There is a phobia of any higher power which the insane are sensitive to. It's a sign of clinical paranoia due to mental illness.


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garyb wrote:
oh well.
convenience is nice, but it isn't everything.
countries can open or close borders as they see fit. it's part of maintaining a nice place.



Country borders are artificial boundaries.


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