Access Virus Scope

[netguyjoel]

Without trying to over simplify everything...different products...yield different results.

Analog stuff does things different than digital. And different digital hardware performs with similar features and qualities...but different acoustic properties. Yes, I own Nord & Access stuff...They will remain in my studio. I own Analog stuff too. That will remain in my studio....but XITE...is mandatory for my studio!

[dante]

I would like a SCOPE Virus, since I dont have a real one and the scope one would probably cost less ... except for tying up a bit of DSP but I could always bounce it to an audio track then remove from project to re-use DSP on other things....

[iSiStOy]

Regarding the very topic of this thread, maybe you should give a try to that fmpsycho synth, Virus(-).
It's a start but I would enjoy him to release the (+) version as well.

Let's keep on posting there occasionally and see what happens...

[olase]

sorry, I didn't mean...
That's why I don't understand why people want this Virus nonsense under Scope.
...

There are many reasons why people want to have such "NONSENSE" on Scope.

I would like to throw my TC Powercore Card out of my system if there would be a virus. I do not have so much space for real synthis even for racks. I have a nordlead 2 for example. If this one would be available on scope i would buy it.

Also i think if S|C would have a new fresh Synthi it would be a fresh up for the sales.

Cheers,
olase

[astroman]

you're welcome to disagree, but it imho (and according to my experience as written above) it is nonsense because it doesn't make any sense...

even if you port the exact same processing methods, the device will sound significantly different from the original.
If you don't mind that difference, you may as well pick a sound from one of the existing Scope synths that comes close to your idea.

Otherwise you have to stick with the originals.
I've recently been tempted to buy an Intellifex FX processor which is (like Clavia and Access) M56k DSP based. I already have a ton of reverbs, delays and chorus in Scope - but this one just sounded different in a very particular way.
So particular that it triggered a hefty GAS attack

Admittedly I still have the 'older' Virus sounds in my head and some live stuff from Nord.
So I visited the Access website for some fresh impressions, but (for my taste) it was rather disappointing.
They lost much of their 'bite' in favour to fabric conditioned sounds.

and don't even start to talk about a 'synth market' on Scope...

cheers, Tom

[iSiStOy]

In My Humble Opinion, Virus C is the last serie to produce an interesting sound.
But again, I speak for myself!

TI is just too digital: switch off the FX and you'll see what I mean...

[netguyjoel]

I have one in my rack (Virus C)

[olase]

It is'nt nonsense at all.

Nobody talks about a 1:1 portation from the access code. For sure there also must be done some adaptation. Also it is clear that the processing unit in a sharc dsp is different from a dsp56k. I think you can get the same results (voltage, freq, ...) from the DA converter.

That may be the complete effort for that project is to high is written in another book.

cheers,
olase

[iSiStOy]

But hey! Have a go for the Virus(-) I indicated before and You'll get at least the kind of beefy bass you can get with a Virus C, but on you S|C board.
The sound is exactly what I was looking for, in terms of a "standard" trance bass sound.
Really sticking to it!
I mean, for the second time at least (the RSPV and the Virus(-) ) , I find users creating plugins with their ears which are so close to "reality"...

[cw_swede]

My comments on this:

Building up a synth that has same structure as Virus does NOT make it sound the same. Loads of synths has same structure but sounds very different.
It is easier to port Virus code to TC because of Motorola since CW uses Sharc the code must be re-written tgo Sharc-syntax.
Hopefully they can release a Clavia Nord-clone on TC too, it would be nice...and also a Waldorf since they all uses Motorola.
But the TC synth-clone Powercore-01 sounds ****, comparable to VOID/COS.

The hours I did test VOID/COS I do NOT like either of them. They looks nice but sound ****.
The best plug I've ever tried on Scope is Zarg Prophet-Plus.
I may buy Solaris but I need to know how much power it will take.

I can compare to my real Virus KC and Nordlead2X and I also have Powercore Virus together with my Creamware... and CW sounds nice and fat.

[fmpsycho]

wow that was all the i needed to hear thanx so mutch
as my opinion goes there is nothing that sounds really similler in nothing
virus sure is diffrent ( ti ) from my G2 or my waldorf any how
it's not a metter of hardware or nothing the Ti or anyother synths by
any other company is tottaly diffrent in anything for me
it's that repeting anoying question who you like best your mother
or your father .....
i've heard acess C , Ti , A , B non sounds the same to me .. sorry
( correct me if i am wrong ) but i heard Tdm and it doesn't really sounds
like the virus B also .. no ?
so a copy paste thing is not really the issue here same Dsp ....

is it possible to copy paste a virus code on to another platform and relive it on another ?

as i see it it is not really the same as the tdm vertion or other synths also

can i be mistaking ?

btw virus(-) is my development hehe

[dawman]

Just get Solaris and save weeks of time trying to get whiskey from a bottle of wine.
Virus and Nord are no biggie trying to reproduce in Solaris or even Prowave.
RDII Modules add all of the extra Filters and Oscillators you'll ever need.
And if that's not enough you can use Flexor III via the Flexor RD Modules, and also a vast collection from SpaceF's satellites.
I use Prowave live because in the XITE-1 it loads presets fast as greased lightning compared to the DSP cards and I make it sound like a real analog w/ seperate Oscillator Glides, etc.
Add the VS or Waldorf Oscillators and have those sounds, add the samples of the Roland D50 of home brewed Kyma Waveforms and get really sick.
Then add inserted effects and Overdrive etc.
With Prowave and Solaris the sick amount of Modulations make it into whatever synth you want.
But having an immataion of an immatation with a Nord or a Virus sounds like fun though.


Here's a little Waldorf emulation for shits and grins.
http://forums.planetz.com/download/file.php?id=5749

[synthetic]

wow that was all the i needed to hear thanx so mutch
as my opinion goes there is nothing that sounds really similler in nothing
virus sure is diffrent ( ti ) from my G2 or my waldorf any how
it's not a metter of hardware or nothing the Ti or anyother synths by
any other company is tottaly diffrent in anything for me
it's that repeting anoying question who you like best your mother
or your father .....
i've heard acess C , Ti , A , B non sounds the same to me .. sorry
( correct me if i am wrong ) but i heard Tdm and it doesn't really sounds
like the virus B also .. no ?
so a copy paste thing is not really the issue here same Dsp ....

is it possible to copy paste a virus code on to another platform and relive it on another ?

as i see it it is not really the same as the tdm vertion or other synths also

can i be mistaking ?

btw virus(-) is my development hehe

I've never used TDM here but friend of mine have (Colony-5: http://www.colony5.com )
But I have owned A, C, TI and now finally I use my KC and TC PoCo Virus.
TI was too much for me, the sound that I use sounds the same in C. TI is more into ambient area and wavetables (+ all C features)...which I do not use. Else it is a great machine.
The sounds that are not using C specific params sounds the same in my PoCo Virus, have loaded same banks.
If anyone wants to explore Virus sounds it is anought to start with an A.

It is not only DSP and code that matters, it's how HW is constructed around it too, that's why that old vintage synths sounds differently, compare to Prophet-5 Rev 1,2 and 3 and Roland MKS80 with different chip (CEM, Roland IC).

Will try your plug then and see if I like it.

Here's a nice list to check out:
http://www.sequencer.de/specials/synthesizer_chip.html
http://sequencer.de/synth/index.php/Chi ... nthesizers

http://www.analog.com/en/embedded-proce ... index.html


A friend of mine: http://nydell.se/projects/j106/

[dawman]

Nice links and yes, it's nice having softies everywhere but hardware control is half of the synth IMHO.
So many synths lack a good good surface that's inspiring.
I am really surprised that there aren't surface clones based on the Virus layout, it's brilliant.
Once had an Oberheim XPander that was pretty ingenious and made real time control part of a composition almost.
I am waiting for this design which is reminiscient of my old XP.

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[netguyjoel]

Wicked sicker than sick!!

[synthetic]

Bastard

Solaris seems to be big, just as my old Korg Trident.

Is it homebuilt ASB-system you have here?

Maybe it's time to request for a demo of Solaris on Scope
so one can get a opinion if it is something for me.

I did not like COS/VOID, but John's Prophet-Plus is superb.