ASIAN INSTRUMENT SAMPLES (need advice)

braincell · Post by **braincell** » Sun Aug 03, 2003 9:22 am

I need advice on asian instrument samples. I sold my roland synth with asia card and I sort of regret it. It had a lot of string and wind instruments. I'm not interested in any loops. Someone help. Up to $300 USD is in my price range.

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marcuspocus · Post by **marcuspocus** » Sun Aug 03, 2003 11:39 am

A samples cd exist from best service, called Heart of Asia.

I think it pretty complete... Not everything is excelent, but enough to be worth the cd price i think

Mr Arkadin · Post by **Mr Arkadin** » Sun Aug 03, 2003 2:33 pm

i know you're looking for samples, but for the sort of money you're spending http://www.swarsystems.com/SwarPlug/index.htm do a great VSTi called SwarPlug. It even has built in tutorials telling you how these instruments are traditionally used, although you can use them how you please of course. There's a good review in Sound On Sound this month http://www.sospubs.co.uk

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braincell · Post by **braincell** » Sun Aug 10, 2003 9:46 am

Thanks guys!

It seems like Heart of Asia is mostly loops. Does it have a fair amount of playable patches?

The Swar thing sounds very mechanical from the mp3 demos.

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Mr Arkadin · Post by **Mr Arkadin** » Sun Aug 24, 2003 9:28 am

Another new VSTi just came out, try http://www.dashsignature.com/?content=p ... nagalis#ID and see if that covers anything you like.

Spirit · Post by **Spirit** » Sun Aug 24, 2003 9:50 am

Wouldn't mind getting that one myself - the mp3 is pretty impressive. But PayPal !!

I never use PayPal...

Mr Arkadin · Post by **Mr Arkadin** » Sun Aug 24, 2003 9:52 am

PayPal is BAAAD (and not in the cool sense).

braincell · Post by **braincell** » Sun Aug 24, 2003 6:25 pm

I haven't used paypal and don't really want to, although I have a friend who uses it with no problems. The EMM KNAGALIS SYNTH sounds nice. Has anyone here tried the demo? I like the price. I'm leaning towards the Spectrasonics "Heart of Africa" Volume I because it's cheaper than the "Heart of Asia". Spectrasonics.net seems to be the only place I can buy these. Has anyone here dealt with them?

RE: HEART OF AFRICA

"It's quite simply the most fantastic collection of ethnic sounds I've heard from a single source."
-Sound on Sound Magazine

I just read that the founder of Spectrasonics created the sounds for the XP series and I assume this includes the Asia card I loved. Maybe this company makes what I need.

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samplaire · Post by **samplaire** » Mon Aug 25, 2003 7:11 am

The Heart of Africa is awesome! But it is not Asian at all, obviously

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samplaire · Post by **samplaire** » Mon Aug 25, 2003 7:29 am

Or look at: http://www.sampletank.com/Main.html?sound_PukkaMasala

braincell · Post by **braincell** » Mon Aug 25, 2003 12:56 pm

I bought the Heart of Africa Volume 1 and I am not disappointed. It has a tremendous amount of useable multisamples. I expected some great percussion but was surprised that it contains excellent playable choir samples, also the grunts are hard to resist.

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braincell · Post by **braincell** » Mon Sep 01, 2003 8:16 pm

If you read the fine print it says that you can't use these samples in anything imoral such as pornography. I think that is way out of line. I hadn't planned on using it for that but maybe now I am! and who defines what is imoral?

marcuspocus · Post by **marcuspocus** » Tue Sep 02, 2003 12:52 am

What? I think this is totaly illegal. I can't think of any court that would apply such a restriction. I also think this is totaly a stupid restriction.

What a stupid thing! Can't beleive this!

samplaire · Post by **samplaire** » Tue Sep 02, 2003 2:41 am

It's rather an advise, I belive

Or at least they want to tell you they dislike immoral behaviour

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borg · Post by **borg** » Tue Sep 02, 2003 4:37 am

frank zappa's first home studio was once shut down. a police officer in disguise asked frank to do a little porn movie for 'a friend as a surprise'. frank said he couldn't do that, but would be willing to help him out with some kind of hearing play. so he and some girl started putting the sounds on tape, and gave it later to that guy... and got arrested and gone was his studio... i think in the end he just lost all his tapes, but still.
why? the house the studio was in crossed the plans of the town hall to broaden the streets!

Mr Arkadin · Post by **Mr Arkadin** » Tue Sep 02, 2003 10:34 am

Although normally a freedom of speech-type guy, i believe that in the case of the Asian CD they promised to put the fine print on about pornography etc. so that they could get the Tibetan Monks chanting on the disc. If this is true then well fair enough for those samples, but as for the rest of the CD and the African CD i'd say anything goes.

rrominet4 · Post by **rrominet4** » Tue Sep 02, 2003 11:25 am

Some great bands have began doing music for porn movies. It pays the gear.
I didn't know they were mormon puritans at spectrasonics....
What if someone sells a sample bank that is forbidden to use in anything but porn movies

, or in anything but trance music cause it's immoral, or no advertising for beer..... stupid...
i would say it's more about retraining commerce and free enterprise than freedom of "speech" (speech in porn movies is still something to be proven

marcuspocus · Post by **marcuspocus** » Tue Sep 02, 2003 11:45 am

Ah ah!

rrominet4 · Post by **rrominet4** » Tue Sep 02, 2003 2:18 pm

To stay in topic, i say that I do have the swar plug but I don't advise anyone to buy it.
Defects are : monophonic (yes, your tablas tails will be cut !!!)
The instruments are good quality but they won't store in songs/projects (cubase sx here). You will have to re set the instruments each time you open your song again.

To bad because i think it's a quite good quality sample player.

Allow me to post some links to a band i really like and which began making money with porn music
http://www.algonet.se/~jonwar/ultravox-interview.html

I think it's very interesting in every aspect.

Also, Billy Curie, the synth guy (who played with and wrote for Gary Numman, founded Visage etc, which are reference of electronic music of the eighties) has also influenced synth makers
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/sep99/a ... /oscar.htm

If you read carefully both articles, you may wonder what if the arp odissey wasn't allowed for porn music ? you would never have bands like ultravox (they were not that famous except amongst musicians or elitist listeners, and they influenced most of the electronic music in the 80's) and may be not even synths like the OSCar... because the band where this guy played wouldn't ever happen.

I do not have the spectrasonic cd with the "porn" notice, but for me it perfectly shows the kind of bad minded period we are in. People think they know the truth and that they can give morality or behaviour lessons to others...

Well enough philosophy... Me too i'd like to find a tabla and sitar sound generator, not plain sample loops....

I hope you'll also enjoy the reading.
greets

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Mr Arkadin · Post by **Mr Arkadin** » Tue Sep 02, 2003 2:45 pm

Believe me i'm no puritan (jeez, some of the porn i've seen...crikey!) but i think you completely didn't read my post.

I do not have the spectrasonic cd with the "porn" notice, but for me it perfectly shows the kind of bad minded period we are in. People think they know the truth and that they can give morality or behaviour lessons to others...

From what i understand (assuming it's not company bullshit) is that they had to put this notice on to secure the Tibetan Monks samples. Now you may not agree but i think respecting other people's cultures is quite important (if those cultures aren't out to harm anyone of course), so i think disrespecting the Monk's wishes would be churlish at best but more likely offensive to their culture.

If you really don't agree with a seller's license you can return the CDs unopened and get your money back. And, as i say, i think the porn thing only related to the Monks, so unless you really have a desire to have Tibetan Monks chanting over some lesbian strap-on scene and a 'repairman' with a big moustache joining in then i don't see that there's much of an issue.