New Xeon E boards support 3 PCI slots

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Re: New Xeon E boards support 3 PCI slots

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dawman wrote: Wed Jul 18, 2018 6:21 am Nice.
6 Cores @ 3.8 and 3 x Scope Pro Cards..
Guys who held onto the old birds just got new legs.
You got it! Updated my above post with the 5V support info to include pricing options.
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Re: New Xeon E boards support 3 PCI slots

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I think I want one just for the C246s ability to run i7s.
Let us know what you find out.
That board could sit in a 1U no sweat..
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Re: New Xeon E boards support 3 PCI slots

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dante wrote: Sun Jul 15, 2018 5:55 am
dawman wrote: Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:07 pm Dante.
Supermicro 246 with the E-2186G is pretty damn fierce.

https://www.supermicro.com/CDS_Image/up ... _front.jpg

You can buy a server already made from Supermicro with the CPU and parts.
Its a tiny ass 1U but looks sweet.
Cool but I want to run the 3 PCI cards as well as the XITE-1D. I know theres such a thing as risers, but will 2 lunas and a Pulsar fit in 1U?

Actually a 2U ATX Chassis can House 3 x full length PCI Cards. There are 1Us with 2 x horizontal slots too.
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Re: New Xeon E boards support 3 PCI slots

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Hi,

Looks like a good board! - But won't be cheap! - Is that XEON chip a Xeon version of the 8700 K? - OK, it'll support ECC RAM but apart from that it's very similar to the 8700 K? - The Xeon will cost over 100 more - and the motherboard maybe more expensive than most others (it may be very good though).

Personally I've spent enough on motherboards after adding some Z97 that I was happy to get hold of with 4790 K processors. Any further CPU power can be in the form of VEP slaves if needed.

For once I can say, I'm out!!! - I've got enough boards with PCI slots, I made sure of it!!! - All regular consumer boards like AsRock, MSI, Gigabyte.

I managed to get MSI Z170A Gaming M3 and Gigabyte H170 D3HP - All with 3 PCI slots on and 7700 K

After having viewed god knows how many motherboards I'm actually fed up of it - !!!

The industrial style board being discussed here may have more durability than a regular board? - Anyhow, good luck getting the boards you need
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Re: New Xeon E boards support 3 PCI slots

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dawman wrote: Thu Jul 19, 2018 3:17 pm
dante wrote: Sun Jul 15, 2018 5:55 am
dawman wrote: Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:07 pm Dante.
Supermicro 246 with the E-2186G is pretty damn fierce.

https://www.supermicro.com/CDS_Image/up ... _front.jpg

You can buy a server already made from Supermicro with the CPU and parts.
Its a tiny ass 1U but looks sweet.
Cool but I want to run the 3 PCI cards as well as the XITE-1D. I know theres such a thing as risers, but will 2 lunas and a Pulsar fit in 1U?

Actually a 2U ATX Chassis can House 3 x full length PCI Cards. There are 1Us with 2 x horizontal slots too.
Sounds good - I might go for a 2U - currently I got 4U so a savings of 2U in my rack.
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dante wrote: Sun Jul 22, 2018 6:24 pm
dawman wrote: Thu Jul 19, 2018 3:17 pm
dante wrote: Sun Jul 15, 2018 5:55 am

Cool but I want to run the 3 PCI cards as well as the XITE-1D. I know theres such a thing as risers, but will 2 lunas and a Pulsar fit in 1U?

Actually a 2U ATX Chassis can House 3 x full length PCI Cards. There are 1Us with 2 x horizontal slots too.
Sounds good - I might go for a 2U - currently I got 4U so a savings of 2U in my rack.

Gotsta have racks....
There’s a great short profile Water Cooler for servers by Dynatron called the L3.
It’s for 1U but uses the same barrel shaped fans Supermicro has in their racks.
Might be better if you plan on OC’ing your CPU.

Also for your PCI Cards there is the Dynatron Cross Blower.
It cools an NVMe M.2 in my spare 1U.
Pretty sweet little item.
Upper left corner is the cross blower. Could help on triple PCIs.
Upper left corner is the cross blower. Could help on triple PCIs.
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As a person who feasts on Corporate greed backfiring, I’m here to exclaim how pleased I am about AMDs market value notching up.
At the same time Intel is dropping.
The new i7-9000 Series chips offer nothing new.
But expect new Xeon Es to be cheaper than the review sites claim
I’d buy Xeons in November.
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And give me a non-Threadripper AM4 board with industrial build, 3 PCI slots and solid bandwidth for our platform and that can be front page build news here too. If only =]
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valis wrote: Sat Jul 28, 2018 2:52 pm And give me a non-Threadripper AM4 board with industrial build, 3 PCI slots and solid bandwidth for our platform and that can be front page build news here too. If only =]

I'll keep a watch out for the Xeon E (that is 6 cores) and see what the pricing is - but I've really got enough PCI slot boards now !

Thread ripper is AMD socket TR4

and yes an AM4 board with 3 x pci slots would be good - Ryzen 7 1800 X is a lot cheaper now
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Keep us posted. I think i7 will help the new 64 bit standard more. 64 bit programs strains my current PCI system quickly.
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fraz wrote: Fri Sep 07, 2018 11:08 am I'll keep a watch out for the Xeon E (that is 6 cores) and see what the pricing is - but I've really got enough PCI slot boards now !

Thread ripper is AMD socket TR4

and yes an AM4 board with 3 x pci slots would be good - Ryzen 7 1800 X is a lot cheaper now
The CPU is usually in a similar price bracket compared to the consumer CPU's, at least with past generations. This is the single socket Xeon variety after all, though you get certain features here that don't exist in consumer. However it's not the better virtualization, 512bit encryption instructions or the ECC memory support that I am interested in, it's the overall level of board stability and build. I have Xeon boards going back to the P2 era still, *and* a Pentium Pro board. All of them still work with the exception of an iWill, none of my supermicro boards have failed from anything that would be contributed to their build quality (a blown PSU or etc might take out a board though).

In regards to mentioning "a non-Threadripper AM4 board" what I meant wasn't that TR was AM4, but rather the only boards of similar build quality to what I enjoy from Xeon boards ARE the Socket TR4/Threadripper boards. So, please an AM4 board with industrial build AND pci slots! But really this is just rhetoric with only an outside chance of happening. For though Ryzen can support ECC and will likely have some solidly built boards, in the consumer end an industrial focused Ryzen board ALSO having PCI slots aplenty is not something I actually expect.
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Re: New Xeon E boards support 3 PCI slots

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I've sent a quote to iBase asking about the costs etc....

I don't have a problem with the consumer boards - if any of them let me down I'll come here to gripe about it !!!

Regarding price of the new Xeon D compared to 8700 K - I've read the Xeon D will be £450 - I've seen 8700 K for £303 and I'd be surprised to see the similar Xeon D for the same price - but it may happen -
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I got a reply from iBase as well - Below is the UK prices - Not cheap - but if you need PCI slots with 4790 K / 6700 K / 7700 K / 8700 K - or lower model CPU's !!! - The base is covered!

MB980 - ATX, LGA1150 Core i7/i5/i3, Q87 PCH, w/ I217LM GbE LANx1 + Intel I211AT GbE LANx1, VGA (DVI-I/DVI-D/DisplayPort), SATAIII x6, COM x6, PCIx4+PCIe(16x)x1+PCIe(1x)x1+PCIe(4x)x1, Supporting vPro & iAMT 9.0, iSMART(RoHS)
1-9 Off - £260

MB990 - ATX, LGA1151 Core i7/i5/i3, Q170 PCH, w/ I219LM GbE LANx1 + Intel I211AT GbE LANx1, VGA (HDMI 2.0/DVI-D/DisplayPort), SATAIII x6, COM x6, PCIx3+PCIe(16x)x1+PCIe(1x)x1+PCIe(4x)x1+PCIe(8x) x1, Mini PCIe, Supporting vPro & iAMT 11.0, iSMART(RoHS)
1-9 Off – £270

MB995 - ATX, LGA1151 Core i7/i5/i3, Q370 CH, I219LM+Intel I211AT GbE, VGA (HDMI 2.0/DVI-D/DisplayPort), SATAIII x4, COM x 6 (RS232/422/485 x2+RS232 x4), PCIe(16x)+PCIe(4x)+PCIe(1x)+ 3xPCI, Mini PCIe+M.2(M-key)+M.2(E-key),iAMT11.6,TPM(2.0),iSMART(RoHS)
1-9 Off - £300
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Re: New Xeon E boards support 3 PCI slots

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Nice to see HDMO/DVI/DP all onboard
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