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Bets New MB for Xite-1

Post by catscratch » Fri Nov 25, 2016 7:28 am

I haven't looked at computers in over 10 years! I have no idea what to look for to run my xite with, I just know that my 10 y.o. system will not last forever. I want intell because this old system (intel Pd35pd) has worked so well. Beyond that and the need for pci-e I don't know what to look for. Any advice would be appreciated.

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Re: Bets New MB for Xite-1

Post by garyb » Fri Nov 25, 2016 10:37 am

the socket 1151 motherboards seem to have an issue with Scope ASIO. i'd go for Z97.

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Re: Bets New MB for Xite-1

Post by catscratch » Fri Nov 25, 2016 1:35 pm

Okay thanks.

I see mostly Gamer machines with z97 - 1150

Seems like overkill, but maybe those are the choices.

As discussed elsewhere, I think my track count at higher sample rates should improve with a new system.

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Re: Bets New MB for Xite-1

Post by garyb » Fri Nov 25, 2016 1:50 pm

you're looking to purchase a completed machine?

we can build one....

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Re: Bets New MB for Xite-1

Post by catscratch » Fri Nov 25, 2016 2:08 pm

Yes, I need a complete machine (box only). Want to upgrade the box and keep surrounding pieces.

We? Not sure I know enough to do that, or maybe just barely enough.

Shopping on newegg and tigerdirect. Too many new form factors... mini / micro / atx / itx mini etc.

Looking for a guide of some kind...

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Post by garyb » Fri Nov 25, 2016 4:45 pm

pm me.

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Post by dawman » Fri Nov 25, 2016 5:30 pm

GaryB made this for me and we tried several new things like MSI, Asus, ASRock.
ASRock Z97 always works, it just seems to be the choice for the last few builds.

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Re: Bets New MB for Xite-1

Post by dawman » Sun Nov 27, 2016 9:35 pm

Also the ASRock Z97s have 4 times lower DPC Scores than the best Z170.

128 Mic.u. is still pretty fast.
But the Z97s are basically Z77 then Z87 matured to perfection.
But 30mic.u. on the Z97 is just incredible for audio.

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Re: Bets New MB for Xite-1

Post by catscratch » Mon Nov 28, 2016 6:12 am

But 30mic.u. on the Z97 is just incredible for audio.

I'm on it. Z97 is in my sights...

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Re: Bets New MB for Xite-1

Post by jksuperstar » Mon Nov 28, 2016 9:17 pm

I second the Z97....my mobo has a PCIe slot that connects direct to the CPU. Despite running the on-die graphics for my i5-4690K, I can run lowest ULLI settings with full 64 ASIO channels enabled. Overclocking the RAM a little bit (up to 2400...which the RAM is rated for, and the CPU only needs 1600) seems to keep any conflict with graphics & the rest of the system operating.

Asus Maximus VII Impact (mini-ITX format)

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Re: Bets New MB for Xite-1

Post by krizrox » Thu Dec 01, 2016 8:00 am

jksuperstar wrote:I second the Z97....my mobo has a PCIe slot that connects direct to the CPU. Despite running the on-die graphics for my i5-4690K, I can run lowest ULLI settings with full 64 ASIO channels enabled. Overclocking the RAM a little bit (up to 2400...which the RAM is rated for, and the CPU only needs 1600) seems to keep any conflict with graphics & the rest of the system operating.

Asus Maximus VII Impact (mini-ITX format)
similar to what I have. I have an MSI Z97 Gaming mobo and an i5-4690K (these have hyperthreading disabled inside the CPU). I haven't experimented with any overclocking. Always wanted to but I'm a noob at overclocking. In fact I wouldn't even know where to start. Any suggestions? lol

Anyway, XITE-1 seems to like this board.

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Re: Bets New MB for Xite-1

Post by catscratch » Thu Dec 01, 2016 9:28 am

It's great to get feedback. I'm heading in the same direction, but I wont get there until the new year
krizrox wrote: Always wanted to but I'm a noob at overclocking. In fact I wouldn't even know where to start. Any suggestions?.
I know nothing about overclocking clocking and can't vouch for this post, but I did read this recently

http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id- ... board.html

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Re: Bets New MB for Xite-1

Post by garyb » Thu Dec 01, 2016 10:23 am

my suggestion on overclocking is "don't bother". if you really like experimenting with computers, it might be fun. if you are already an expert in fooling with computers, go ahead, but if you want a stable system that always works, just use the gear as intended.

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Re: Bets New MB for Xite-1

Post by jksuperstar » Thu Dec 01, 2016 12:57 pm

In any case, All over clocking will be managed by your specific board BIOS. So I can only recommend to read your manual, or dive through your BIOS settings. Some gaming boards have simple or even automated ways of over clocking, others might be less stable in the outcome.

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Re: Bets New MB for Xite-1

Post by krizrox » Fri Dec 02, 2016 9:58 am

jksuperstar wrote:In any case, All over clocking will be managed by your specific board BIOS. So I can only recommend to read your manual, or dive through your BIOS settings. Some gaming boards have simple or even automated ways of over clocking, others might be less stable in the outcome.
garyb wrote:my suggestion on overclocking is "don't bother". if you really like experimenting with computers, it might be fun. if you are already an expert in fooling with computers, go ahead, but if you want a stable system that always works, just use the gear as intended.

My MSI user manual might as well be in Greek when it comes to overclocking instructions or tips lol. I've read through all that and just ended up more confused. I spent a few minutes googling resources but never quite got to a happy place where I felt confident to go in and start tweaking things. There was always a "be careful" warning buried in there somewhere and I think that just scared me straight lol My default position is to trust Gary ;-)

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Re: Bets New MB for Xite-1

Post by dawman » Fri Dec 02, 2016 10:19 pm

krizrox wrote:
jksuperstar wrote:I second the Z97....my mobo has a PCIe slot that connects direct to the CPU. Despite running the on-die graphics for my i5-4690K, I can run lowest ULLI settings with full 64 ASIO channels enabled. Overclocking the RAM a little bit (up to 2400...which the RAM is rated for, and the CPU only needs 1600) seems to keep any conflict with graphics & the rest of the system operating.

Asus Maximus VII Impact (mini-ITX format)
similar to what I have. I have an MSI Z97 Gaming mobo and an i5-4690K (these have hyperthreading disabled inside the CPU). I haven't experimented with any overclocking. Always wanted to but I'm a noob at overclocking. In fact I wouldn't even know where to start. Any suggestions? lol

Anyway, XITE-1 seems to like this board.

MSI Forums have a moderator from Carson City, Nevada.
He uses RME but helped me OC my MSI.

You should have GuRu in the BIOS.
Dont push for more than 400mhz though.
The heat is not friendly for audio unless you add specialized cooling.

Theres a really nice self contained CPU Water Cooler from CoolerMaster.
It sits on the CPU just like a stock HSF.
It can even be twisted from vertical to horizontal to fit your specific needs too.

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