MOVEQ+ FREE

MCCY · Post by **MCCY** » Thu Oct 19, 2006 10:31 pm

For all the non-german-speaking:
We're discussing 'bout manuals in other languages.
We could need some chinese etc. ... input here

Can this forum display those typos?

Martin

Ben Walker · Post by **Ben Walker** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 12:28 am

On 2006-10-19 15:08, katano wrote:

wär' dir sächsisch, altsächsisch, mittelniederdeutsch oder niedersächsisch lieber?

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If you do those, I'll do the Anglo-Saxon, Norse and Celtic versions.

Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 2:14 am

Thought it might be worth mentioning that the manual isn't finished yet, so it would be prudent to hold off on translating it.

kylie · Post by **kylie** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 4:07 am

wär' dir sächsisch, altsächsisch, mittelniederdeutsch oder niedersächsisch lieber?

ich kann multi-dialekt

ick komm ja nisch urspruenglisch aus saxen, wa.

orber isch gann des ooch inzwischn nisch nur verschdehn, sondern misch ooch ardiguliarn.

ich hab jemand an der hand, der auch hartes erzgebirgisch spricht. falls da bedarf bestuende...

ich las hier auch von fraenkisch. das klingt jedenfalls sehr nett. aber es enthaelt worte wie gigalawaggerln, und wer jemals rausgefunden hat, was das heisst, und auch warum (als nicht-franke), wird mir zustimmen, dass das manual nur franken wirklich verstehen wuerden

-gruss, markus-

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katano · Post by **katano** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 5:08 am

das tönt doch scho mal super. es bitzli züri-dütsch wär au nöd schlächt so für zwüscheddure. solangs nöd en bayrische dialäkt isch, spillts mer eigentlich kei rolle

katano · Post by **katano** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 5:08 am

sorry... may we should come back on topic

djmicron · Post by **djmicron** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 7:32 am

mio nonno diceva:
i sardi non sono sottosviluppati...
sono sviluppati sotto....

MCCY · Post by **MCCY** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 7:53 am

That's how google translates djmicron:

my grandfather said: the Sardinians are not underdeveloped… are develop to you under….

mein Großvater sagte: das Sardinians sind nicht unterentwickelt… sind sich entwickeln zu dir unter….

My conclusion: I wouldn't run the MOVEQ-manual through it.

B.t.w. Are there some points with MOVEQ+ which are really difficult to understand? Some general problems concerning usage which need to be formulated clearer in whatever language? I (and I bet shroomz too) will try
to give answers here for sure!

Martin

djmicron · Post by **djmicron** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 7:57 am

it's a joke

the sardinians are not underdeveloped

they are developed under

MCCY · Post by **MCCY** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 9:23 am

That's what even google-translation made clear to me

MCCY · Post by **MCCY** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 1:12 pm

Hi!
I thought I would get more feedback this way.

Seems kylie is the only one who intensively tested MOVEQ+ and it's abilities and weak points (which will be corrected in case where they were reproducable and problematic for usage in any way). Thanks for your PM-input..

No bugs, no problems concerning the sound/the aim of the plug reported. No phase-issues, no strange sounds, no unwanted/unexpected clipping or anything... Now could be the time to correct it. O.K. I didn't find anything like that either so far

But O.K., we allready spent weeks to sort all this out, so this seems as it was worth the work.

No comments on abilities of MOVamily, which disappoints me a bit! No freaky usage of MIDI-4-kick which is in my opinion absolutely revolutionary.. No other ideas for MOVamily? Hm. I'm just wondering...

There was a question concerning the price: Our aim is 30€

, and yes, I know that it is worth 100€ + X. We wanted to start an experiment, if extremely low-priced high-end plugs make people run on the cw-shop (I guess not though... Nobody runs at the testversions either

I wouldn't mind to make it freeware, cause I won't make real money with it anyway, but 30€ is nothing which hurts anybody anyway, so why not doing this little experiment?!)

I could ask a question directly - would be interesting to know how many in this forum are interested... Who would be interested in buying MOVEQ+ for 30€?
Who won't do it because it has some special behavior/sound/quality... he/she does not like? What is that special reason

Martin

Janni · Post by **Janni** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 3:10 pm

Take it that way: no reason to complain!
I wasn´t able to test it so far, but I will buy it for 30 Euros!
Just can´t imagine that it sounds bad

Cheers,
Jan

Post by **garyb** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 4:08 pm

i'd probably buy it, i haven't been experimenting much lately, but that can change in a hurry...

manu · Post by **manu** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 10:29 pm

MCCYRANO wrote:Hi!

No bugs, no problems concerning the sound/the aim of the plug reported. No phase-issues, no strange sounds, no unwanted/unexpected clipping or anything... Now could be the time to correct it. O.K. I didn't find anything like that either so far

Martin

Hi,

Like Kylie,i have tested MOVEQ+ because i need a dynamic eq ,but, there are phase problems on this one,anyway ,you can't make differently when you vary a frequency and a Q.
Another problem, i'm using Wavelab 4 with asio 24 and i can hear distorded sound at -3 db on a mix.Is this desired ?
like Hifiboom , i prepare some test wich i'll upload on my website.
Concerning the price,sometimes,it's better to pay expensive to have quality.
I find the design very nice but it's not enough for me.(i find it more beautiful than Dynpara M/S

).
But i could pay 30 euros to support devellopers !

Manuel

katano · Post by **katano** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 12:23 am

MCCYRANO wrote:Hi!
I thought I would get more feedback this way.

Seems kylie is the only one who intensively tested MOVEQ+ and it's abilities and weak points (which will be corrected in case where they were reproducable and problematic for usage in any way). Thanks for your PM-input..

No comments on abilities of MOVamily, which disappoints me a bit! No freaky usage of MIDI-4-kick which is in my opinion absolutely revolutionary.. No other ideas for MOVamily? Hm. I'm just wondering...
Martin

Problem is: no time here at the moment. have a lot of plugs in my test queue, and not only plugs from you... sorry...

Ben Walker · Post by **Ben Walker** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 1:21 am

Count me in as a definite. Sorry for lack of feedback, but I will definitely buy it at that price.
Ben

kylie · Post by **kylie** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 5:21 am

MCCYRANO wrote: Seems kylie is the only one who intensively tested MOVEQ+ and it's abilities and weak points

and I mainly concentrated on the gui and not really on what it sounds like...
well, but there seem to be a lot more people who care _more_ for that than me anyway, so it might me not too bad to make the listening experience even more usable and intuitive to operate for those. yes, I'm different, I know

No freaky usage of MIDI-4-kick which is in my opinion absolutely revolutionary.. No other ideas for MOVamily? Hm. I'm just wondering...

I like the lfo much. it's selfexplaining capabilities are sufficient even for me

I hope there's more to come like that. no, I didn't play with the kick. but I promise to. give us some more, and make it a MOVodular

btw. I agree with shroomz that led in the kick is misplaced.

There was a question concerning the price: Our aim is 30€

hallelujah. we've been heard. count on me. but care for the split-button spikes...

-greetings, markus-

pling · Post by **pling** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 6:10 am

i'll buy it, but probably not before xmas

MCCY · Post by **MCCY** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 6:29 am

Like Kylie,i have tested MOVEQ+ because i need a dynamic eq ,but, there are phase problems on this one,anyway ,you can't make differently when you vary a frequency and a Q.
Another problem, i'm using Wavelab 4 with asio 24 and i can hear distorded sound at -3 db on a mix.Is this desired ?

This may have various reasons. It may be, that you have a high input and distort the first EQ- module in the 2EQ-groups. So you'd better lower your input a bit. I think it's nice in MOVEQ+, that you can correct gain after every 2 EQs. That should be enough. B.t.w. Wolf has made a GREAT solution on monitoring after EVERY EQ in his EQ. Superb work! I b.t.w. like wolfs devices very much. Just pure clear information about what they do and what you will get for the price.

We should get more detailed on that. You will do so in your test I think - after I released that device

- Maybe you'll give me another little hint before it's in the shop

. Na, maybe I should make it freeware anyway

Anyone else discovered distorted sound at -3 db ?

like Hifiboom , i prepare some test wich i'll upload on my website.
Concerning the price,sometimes,it's better to pay expensive to have quality.
I find the design very nice but it's not enough for me.(i find it more beautiful than Dynpara M/S ).
But i could pay 30 euros to support devellopers !

Thanks for your feedback. I hoped that you'd be more detailed on pointing out that phase problems you mentioned in another thread. It's O.K. if you prefer another EQ over MOVEQ+ if MOVEQ+ does not what you want.

Anyway ,you can't make differently when you vary a frequency and a Q.

Interesting. I say no EQ device is perfect concerning phase (I've heard none on scope. Every device which changes sound changes phase in a way.), but I can say that MOVEQ+ does not have any phase imperfectness compared to all other EQs on this platform. You talk about "problems" so you may think of something else, which would be nice to be described further.

The point for me is, yes, if you make a high Q and move frequency you get the most beautiful Phaser on scope platform

. This effect become audible because of the movement, I don't know if it's 'real phasing' at all - you are right, but it is in Parametric stock EQ and any other which makes high Q-values possible too. Try it out: set high Q & move values - when you not move them it's there too, you just won't hear it before adding many of them.

I'm looking forward for your tests. Nice of you, that you'll spend space on your webside for that. You could post it & describe it first, but that's up to you. Your information about that is quite rare up to now

I hope you tested your EQ of desire intensive enough . It seems just perfect for you, as you pointed out in any single mail that you wrote on planetz. So I'm happy for you

MOVEQ+ for sure is not the best EQ on the planet, but may I wonder a bit, that you are so keen on comparing it to a specific other EQ many times now, without getting detailed? No, it makes no sense. You have a reason: You're looking for an EQ that does just exactly, what the other does, so I understand the way you handle that. MOVEQ+ does some great other things - if you don't need them it's 100% O.K..

Every bugreport, hint, critic, wish etc. is welcome. I hope to get more input (this is why I 'complained' about few comments) (I got it allready) and (you know me) I like argumenting about everything. I want to show you this EQ as it is. (And it is very very cool the way it is.) And I like to hear any critical point from any single user, because in the end good information, usage-manners, arguments, ears & facts count!!

Thanks

Martin

@kylie: I won't fix the button - crackle. It's not unusual with Scope plugs & you benefit from the DSP - release. It would be more dsp-usage to workaround that. It's just not meant for live usage to hit that buttons. Sorry.

I could disable the DSP-release-functions to get less break in audio stream. I many others want that it should be done!