Need 18 channels (16 Adats, 2 mixdowns) with Cubase

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morkusb
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Post by morkusb » Mon Feb 20, 2006 12:06 pm

<a name="planetz-file"></a><a href="http://www.planetz.com/Pulsar/files/pro ... .jpg"><img src="/forums/images/file_icon.gif" border="0" alt=" File"> File</a><BR> <a name="planetz-tag"></a>Related To: Cubase<BR> <a name="planetz-tag"></a>Pulsar Version: Pulsar 1.x<BR> _____________________________________<BR><BR> HI Ive got a Pulsar 1 card, cubase sx3 and a spirit 328 desk. I can get 16 (both 8x ADAT ports) ADAt channels showing on my Spirit 328 desk in a Scope project, but how do i make a project so that the 16 ADAT inputs/outputs showing on the spirit desk mixdown to a stereo wave file within Cubase?

Should I add 2 more asio channels and route them somewhere so that all 16 channel adats when mixdown under Export in Cubase will go down to theh stereo intereleaved mix file?

Will it show up in cunase Main Stereo channel mix? Or have I got to do some weird routing using Pulsar Scope?

Or, will I have to make use of the spdif channels because ive used up 16 ADAt channels? (Does pulsar/Scope support loads of ASIO channels is another question then)

Please help, I'm desperate!

I'm using the Scope SFP4.

PS Please ignore the attached file, I couldnt work out how to post a question in the forum without posting a file!

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Post by wayne » Mon Feb 20, 2006 6:21 pm

Hey man, there is no cubase export when using a CW card. Route the mix to a stereo asio dest & record the track real time to a track in cubase.

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Post by morkusb » Tue Feb 21, 2006 7:33 am

thanks. When u say mixdown to a track, how would i route the spdif out of the spirit 328 to the spdif on pulsar and then set it so it can be seen by cubase to record a mixdown? Is it by initialising a new track and recording or via the file>export in real time?

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Post by Chisel » Wed Apr 12, 2006 9:47 pm

On 2006-02-21 07:33, morkusb wrote:
thanks. When u say mixdown to a track, how would i route the spdif out of the spirit 328 to the spdif on pulsar and then set it so it can be seen by cubase to record a mixdown? Is it by initialising a new track and recording or via the file>export in real time?

morkus
Well, I use Ableton Live, but the concept is the same. Simply route the output of your mixer into a new track in Cubase and record the whole mix into that track. You have to record it manually though, as like was said before, you cannot export a mix when using Scope. That feature only works with native VSTs.

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Post by Shroomz~> » Mon May 15, 2006 1:56 am

With the 328, you should consider using 16 direct outs via adat + analogue mix out & forget about the stereo spdif altogether. If you're connecting another Lexicon or whatever that's got digital send & return then give the spdif a go, otherwise stick with you're 16 adat I/O's & a balanced mix out.

The idea of using your direct out's is to get as many tracks as possible into your daw (Scope box) without mixing down, thus leaving you more flexibility for mixing & mastering within Scope or a native app like Cubase, Nuendo, Sonar or Logic.

The beauty of also using your analogue mix out from the 328, is the ability to record for example, a lexicon verb soaked wet FX mix track containing your channels or buss of choice. You could send this down a direct adat out too, but 18 tracks is better than 16. :wink:

You will need to send at least a single 8ch adat connection to the Spirit if you plan to slave it. If you're making the desk master, you may not need the 328 recieving adat at all, but that depends.

As for the Scope routing, It really depends whether you'd like to work in a native application like Cubase, logic etc or not. In Scope it's not an absolute necessity to involve a sequencing & multitracking application. I personally think it's not such a bad idea to keep the whole recording process in Scope using 32-bit 8ch VDAT tapes. I'd recommend connecting your 16 adat source channels to an STM2448 mixer in Scope. Set the mixer up flat with those 16 channels going out direct outs to 2 or 3 Vdat's with FX channels etc on separate channels too.
Once you've multitracked to the VDATs you just need to mix them down using a Scope mixer & an instance of VDAT. Getting to a mixdown stage like that in SCope at 32-bit without going near a 24 bit native app, *should* yield better signal & dynamic quality as an end result.

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Post by Shroomz~> » Mon May 15, 2006 2:31 am

If you stick with Cubase for multitracking, then you have the choice of sending your 16 adat source channels & 2 analogue source channels either to a Scope mixer or 2, then on to Cubase via asio destination modules or obvioulsy you could connect the adat sources directly to asio destinations bypassing mixing in Scope in favour of Cubase.

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