Plugiator Dev MidiCC sheet for Doepfer Drehbank or similar

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Plugiator Dev MidiCC sheet for Doepfer Drehbank or similar

Post by erminardi » Wed Oct 01, 2008 5:33 am

Just print on A4 and plastify it ;)
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Re: Plugiator Plugins MidiCC sheet

Post by erminardi » Tue Oct 07, 2008 1:21 am

Prodyssey PDF updated 08/10/07
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Re: Plugiator Plugins MidiCC sheet

Post by erminardi » Tue Oct 07, 2008 1:22 am

An this is for Minimax :)
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Re: Plugiator Plugins MidiCC sheet

Post by erminardi » Wed Oct 08, 2008 3:08 am

Pro 12
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Re: Plugiator Plugins MidiCC sheet

Post by erminardi » Wed Oct 08, 2008 3:10 am

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Re: Plugiator Dev MidiCC sheet for Doepfer Drehbank or similar

Post by erminardi » Wed Oct 08, 2008 3:18 am

It's a good method of work for systems like this or similar.
Also suitable for Scope Plugins, just only to assign the correct controls to the pots/faders.
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Re: Plugiator Dev MidiCC sheet for Doepfer Drehbank or similar

Post by HUROLURA » Wed Oct 08, 2008 11:22 am

Nice Ones.
It would be usefull for my adaptation to the Berhinger BCR 2000 and Novation X-station.

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Re: Plugiator Dev MidiCC sheet for Doepfer Drehbank or similar

Post by dawman » Wed Oct 08, 2008 2:30 pm

Love that set up of yours.
Doepfer was way ahead of the pack.

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Re: Plugiator Dev MidiCC sheet for Doepfer Drehbank or similar

Post by HUROLURA » Wed Oct 08, 2008 2:42 pm

One can just notice there is no way to directly control the LightWave Free Env with CC messages. :(
This was possible with the NOAH using some Polyphonic Aftertouch Messages.
On the other side the CC messages for controlling waveforms selections did not work on the NOAH.

Deuce.

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Re: Plugiator Dev MidiCC sheet for Doepfer Drehbank or similar

Post by erminardi » Wed Oct 08, 2008 2:57 pm

HUROLURA wrote:One can just notice there is no way to directly control the LightWave Free Env with CC messages. :(
This was possible with the NOAH using some Polyphonic Aftertouch Messages.
On the other side the CC messages for controlling waveforms selections did not work on the NOAH.

Deuce.

Thanks once again.

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Yep, I've writted only CC controls, the others (leaved blank) are PAT controls.
Sadly S|C and USE Audio used PAT instead only CC :(
Anyway the controls with PAT are mainly minor controls, so if U need to tweak use the Plugin Manager ;)
At 99% the most used pots are cutoff, resonance, oscillators and LFOs.
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Re: Plugiator Dev MidiCC sheet for Doepfer Drehbank or similar

Post by HUROLURA » Wed Oct 08, 2008 3:09 pm

Ooops... my mistake.
You can reach these parameter through PAt messages.
This is not possible on the X-station (or maybe by writing dircetly the correponding midi command) but it is possible with the BCR 2000 (that is just what I used to remote control the stepsequencer of the NOAH with a couple of BCR 2000).
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Post by erminardi » Thu Oct 09, 2008 12:40 am

Oh, I wish this sequencer for Scope 5.0... :o
Why only on NOAH?!
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Re: Plugiator Dev MidiCC sheet for Doepfer Drehbank or similar

Post by meyersaxel » Mon Dec 29, 2008 10:41 am

Hello to all plugiator-users,

Maybe this would be a nice question for an own thread but at first I want to try it in this plugiator-related setting.

I have a question according to the Plugiator-Program-change from external MIDI-Gear.

I still play everything alive. So I use a midipatchbay to switch all the synthesizers that I play - a MIDITEMP MP-88-W and for a tile-related setup it takes only one switch to all instruments.

The Plugiator does not accept programchanges containing LSB/ MSB. I’ve understood that the Plugiator accepts two programchange-numbers that have to be sent serially. The Patchbay is not able to send two different Programchanges in one setup. So I hope that it is possible to switch the plugiator-plugins by normal program-change and a Sys-Ex-String. The Usermanual does not tell anything about Sys-Ex-Strings. So I hope that anyone here in the forum knows a Sys-Ex-message that might contain the second program-change.

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Re: Plugiator Dev MidiCC sheet for Doepfer Drehbank or similar

Post by Shroomz~> » Mon Dec 29, 2008 2:37 pm

meyersaxel, have you read the User Manual's pages 15, 16 & 17???

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Re: Plugiator Dev MidiCC sheet for Doepfer Drehbank or similar

Post by meyersaxel » Tue Dec 30, 2008 3:01 pm

Hello Shroomz,

Yes - so I wrote that I have understood, that I actually have to send two serial programchanges to the plugiator (for example # 103 - any note - PC 1 - 100).

The reason why I asked for SYS-EX-Strings according to the PLUGIATOR is that the MIDITEMP-MP-88W is not build for sending serial Program-Changes in one setup. I think that this problem could be solved by sending a SYS-Ex-Message (the programchange or the plugin-number) and o n e real programchange, which of course is possible by using the MIDITEMP-MP-88-W.

Playing alive I do not want to switch programs by hand. Therefore I try to get all programchanges into one MIDITEMP-MP-88-W-Setup. Maybe this is not possible by using the plugiator. In this case I have to accept that I got the wrong instrument.

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Re: Plugiator Dev MidiCC sheet for Doepfer Drehbank or similar

Post by Shroomz~> » Wed Dec 31, 2008 7:25 am

meyersaxel wrote:The reason why I asked for SYS-EX-Strings according to the PLUGIATOR is that the MIDITEMP-MP-88W is not build for sending serial Program-Changes in one setup.
I can't see why you wouldn't be able to send a program change, followed by a note to confirm the loading of that plug, followed by the desired program change/preset no. You should be able to do that easily with the Miditemp. Are you using the standard midi file player to program these plugin & preset changes?

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Re: Plugiator Dev MidiCC sheet for Doepfer Drehbank or similar

Post by Shroomz~> » Wed Dec 31, 2008 8:23 am

Meyersaxel,

If you are using the program change facility in the matrix programs on the miditemp rather than program changing from a midi file playback, you could possibly consider copying the matrix program to get your second program change number. Since that would be a waste of a matrix program slot & you also need the note command to confirm loading a new plugin, I'd tend to think that playing back a midi file containing the program changes & note info would make more sense.

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Re: Plugiator Dev MidiCC sheet for Doepfer Drehbank or similar

Post by dawman » Wed Dec 31, 2008 12:45 pm

There are certain Keyboard controllers that use the note on/off extra keystroke appraoch to sending a Program change message like the M Audio ES88.
Personally I do not see the necessity of such complex instructions for such a simple task, but It seems as though the extra steps were to provide the ability for a hands free loading of various synths, an excellent idea.
That's why I cannot understand Use taking this considerate appraoch, and then not being able to load a preset hands free?

Here's a company that can definately help if a custom SysEx instruction set would need to be implemented.

http://www.midisolutions.com/progtool.htm

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Re: Plugiator Dev MidiCC sheet for Doepfer Drehbank or similar

Post by meyersaxel » Thu Jan 01, 2009 1:58 am

Hello Mark, hello Jimmy,

Thank you for answering to my posts.

1.
Normally I switch one Live-setup by using one setup/ program in the MIDITEMP. The MP-88-W contains a Midifile-section but I do not use it. It seems that I would have to change my whole workingprocesses for using the Plugiator alive. As I already have a MINIMAX and a PRO-12, I think that the Plugiator isn't that urgentliy neede for my live-setup. I think I will sell it in a few weeks.

2.
At first I will try what the recommended softwareprograms does. Maybe one of the programs is able to recognize SYS-ES-Messages from a midi-instrument like the Roland-Fantom-X-Software does. If so I'll keep the Plugiator...

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Re: Plugiator Dev MidiCC sheet for Doepfer Drehbank or similar

Post by dawman » Thu Jan 01, 2009 2:50 am

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I don't know what you use or if you even use Kontackt/Halion/Giga, etc.
But the F8 1U is what I use for converting keyswitches ( articulations of samples ) to footpedal switches. The software app. is what I use to customize the configuration of the 2 x expression pedals and 6 x footpedal switches. Instead of wasting my left hand to play note off/ons for the articulations I use the F8 instead. It also creatres a hardware panic button which comes in handy as all of this virtual crap gets stuck at times so I immediately clear the pipes with a quick stomp.
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