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 Post subject: Plugiator Dev MidiCC sheet for Doepfer Drehbank or similar
PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 5:33 am 
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Just print on A4 and plastify it ;)


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 1:21 am 
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Prodyssey PDF updated 08/10/07

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 1:22 am 
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An this is for Minimax :)


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 3:18 am 
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It's a good method of work for systems like this or similar.
Also suitable for Scope Plugins, just only to assign the correct controls to the pots/faders.


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Nice Ones.
It would be usefull for my adaptation to the Berhinger BCR 2000 and Novation X-station.

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Love that set up of yours.
Doepfer was way ahead of the pack.

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One can just notice there is no way to directly control the LightWave Free Env with CC messages. :(
This was possible with the NOAH using some Polyphonic Aftertouch Messages.
On the other side the CC messages for controlling waveforms selections did not work on the NOAH.

Deuce.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 2:57 pm 
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HUROLURA wrote:
One can just notice there is no way to directly control the LightWave Free Env with CC messages. :(
This was possible with the NOAH using some Polyphonic Aftertouch Messages.
On the other side the CC messages for controlling waveforms selections did not work on the NOAH.

Deuce.

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Yep, I've writted only CC controls, the others (leaved blank) are PAT controls.
Sadly S|C and USE Audio used PAT instead only CC :(
Anyway the controls with PAT are mainly minor controls, so if U need to tweak use the Plugin Manager ;)
At 99% the most used pots are cutoff, resonance, oscillators and LFOs.

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Ooops... my mistake.
You can reach these parameter through PAt messages.
This is not possible on the X-station (or maybe by writing dircetly the correponding midi command) but it is possible with the BCR 2000 (that is just what I used to remote control the stepsequencer of the NOAH with a couple of BCR 2000).

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Oh, I wish this sequencer for Scope 5.0... :o
Why only on NOAH?!

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 Post subject: Re: Plugiator Dev MidiCC sheet for Doepfer Drehbank or similar
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Hello to all plugiator-users,

Maybe this would be a nice question for an own thread but at first I want to try it in this plugiator-related setting.

I have a question according to the Plugiator-Program-change from external MIDI-Gear.

I still play everything alive. So I use a midipatchbay to switch all the synthesizers that I play - a MIDITEMP MP-88-W and for a tile-related setup it takes only one switch to all instruments.

The Plugiator does not accept programchanges containing LSB/ MSB. I’ve understood that the Plugiator accepts two programchange-numbers that have to be sent serially. The Patchbay is not able to send two different Programchanges in one setup. So I hope that it is possible to switch the plugiator-plugins by normal program-change and a Sys-Ex-String. The Usermanual does not tell anything about Sys-Ex-Strings. So I hope that anyone here in the forum knows a Sys-Ex-message that might contain the second program-change.

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meyersaxel, have you read the User Manual's pages 15, 16 & 17???

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Hello Shroomz,

Yes - so I wrote that I have understood, that I actually have to send two serial programchanges to the plugiator (for example # 103 - any note - PC 1 - 100).

The reason why I asked for SYS-EX-Strings according to the PLUGIATOR is that the MIDITEMP-MP-88W is not build for sending serial Program-Changes in one setup. I think that this problem could be solved by sending a SYS-Ex-Message (the programchange or the plugin-number) and o n e real programchange, which of course is possible by using the MIDITEMP-MP-88-W.

Playing alive I do not want to switch programs by hand. Therefore I try to get all programchanges into one MIDITEMP-MP-88-W-Setup. Maybe this is not possible by using the plugiator. In this case I have to accept that I got the wrong instrument.

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meyersaxel wrote:
The reason why I asked for SYS-EX-Strings according to the PLUGIATOR is that the MIDITEMP-MP-88W is not build for sending serial Program-Changes in one setup.


I can't see why you wouldn't be able to send a program change, followed by a note to confirm the loading of that plug, followed by the desired program change/preset no. You should be able to do that easily with the Miditemp. Are you using the standard midi file player to program these plugin & preset changes?

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Meyersaxel,

If you are using the program change facility in the matrix programs on the miditemp rather than program changing from a midi file playback, you could possibly consider copying the matrix program to get your second program change number. Since that would be a waste of a matrix program slot & you also need the note command to confirm loading a new plugin, I'd tend to think that playing back a midi file containing the program changes & note info would make more sense.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 12:45 pm 
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There are certain Keyboard controllers that use the note on/off extra keystroke appraoch to sending a Program change message like the M Audio ES88.
Personally I do not see the necessity of such complex instructions for such a simple task, but It seems as though the extra steps were to provide the ability for a hands free loading of various synths, an excellent idea.
That's why I cannot understand Use taking this considerate appraoch, and then not being able to load a preset hands free?

Here's a company that can definately help if a custom SysEx instruction set would need to be implemented.

http://www.midisolutions.com/progtool.htm

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Hello Mark, hello Jimmy,

Thank you for answering to my posts.

1.
Normally I switch one Live-setup by using one setup/ program in the MIDITEMP. The MP-88-W contains a Midifile-section but I do not use it. It seems that I would have to change my whole workingprocesses for using the Plugiator alive. As I already have a MINIMAX and a PRO-12, I think that the Plugiator isn't that urgentliy neede for my live-setup. I think I will sell it in a few weeks.

2.
At first I will try what the recommended softwareprograms does. Maybe one of the programs is able to recognize SYS-ES-Messages from a midi-instrument like the Roland-Fantom-X-Software does. If so I'll keep the Plugiator...

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Check out their hardware also.
I don't know what you use or if you even use Kontackt/Halion/Giga, etc.
But the F8 1U is what I use for converting keyswitches ( articulations of samples ) to footpedal switches. The software app. is what I use to customize the configuration of the 2 x expression pedals and 6 x footpedal switches. Instead of wasting my left hand to play note off/ons for the articulations I use the F8 instead. It also creatres a hardware panic button which comes in handy as all of this virtual crap gets stuck at times so I immediately clear the pipes with a quick stomp.
The developer is a MIDI genius and actually responds to emails too........

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