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Re: MIDI modules
Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:26 am
by YiannisK
Thanks for the explanation but I'm still puzzled.
I understand cc assignments so what's the difference when you use midi in, on a synth and assign cc's normally under scope.
Is this for modular?
Or are these sdk modules for developers?
Sorry for my ignorance.
Re: MIDI modules
Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 12:46 pm
by Marco
I can't understand it too, I have no idea why cv
Re: MIDI modules
Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 2:26 pm
by DragonSF
CV comes from the analog world. It's just a value, to control anything instead of a pot. And yes, all these modules are for SDK.
Re: MIDI modules
Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 8:32 pm
by YiannisK
Ok got it!
So with this module could you not implement something in a mixer to maybe have osc
Hui, Mackie control for scope?
Just a thought
Thanks for your efforts in keeping the platform alive with new modules, ideas.
Re: MIDI modules
Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:36 pm
by DragonSF
YiannisK wrote:Ok got it!
So with this module could you not implement something in a mixer to maybe have osc
Hui, Mackie control for scope?
Just a thought
Thanks for your efforts in keeping the platform alive with new modules, ideas.
There are no implementation limits: wherever there is a pot, you can replace it with one of the outputs. Even switches should work (think of pads).
Re: MIDI modules
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 1:35 am
by David
Top stuff, a real boon. Thank you
Re: MIDI modules
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 5:24 am
by jksuperstar
Wow, that midi in idea deserves a device, that's HUGE. No need for routing through a DAW just to get midi into scope anymore!!
Re: MIDI modules
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 3:41 pm
by DragonSF
jksuperstar wrote:Wow, that midi in idea deserves a device, that's HUGE. No need for routing through a DAW just to get midi into scope anymore!!
And no more Midi-Ox fiddling. And you can have as may MIDI-Ins as you like.
Re: MIDI modules
Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 11:25 am
by JoPo
DragonSF wrote:jksuperstar wrote:Wow, DragonSF, great device!
Is there any filtering or interpolation to smooth 7bit MIDI to 32bit CV?
I can do that. But you'll always have a step, because there is no in-between state. Value is either 54 or 55, but never 54.6. On the other side, if you have an idea, I'm open to suggestions. Another way would be using 14-bit (N)RPN input. I can do that too.
But when you convert midi --> CV a lot of values can be added between 2 CC values, no ?
On the other way, I understand there is no reason...
Re: MIDI modules
Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 11:29 am
by JoPo
YiannisK wrote:Looks great!
Can you give me an example of how I would use this ?
What's it's purpose?
Sorry but I'm not familiar with CV stuff.
Just wondering if there's a use for me in my setup that I might overlook.
Thanks and keep up the great work.
Have a look at Expert sleepers Silent Way : a collection of vst's that generate audio rate modulation signal you can use inside Scope via asio. And you'll use digital CV signals ! No more midi jitter ! Amazing possibilities !
Re: MIDI modules
Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 11:37 am
by JoPo
Dragon !
The ext. midiinput looks really useful ! I hope you'll release it as a module...!
When I load it into my Xite, I don't have any gui ! .... .... I guess you are still working on it ...
Re: MIDI modules
Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 4:12 pm
by DragonSF
JoPo wrote:Dragon !
The ext. midiinput looks really useful ! I hope you'll release it as a module...!
When I load it into my Xite, I don't have any gui ! .... .... I guess you are still working on it ...
Actually, I wanted to finish the basic stuff =SDK device)first, but in that case, I'll make module.
Re: MIDI modules
Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2017 12:14 am
by David
DragonSF wrote:
Actually, I wanted to finish the basic stuff =SDK device)first, but in that case, I'll make module.
This is a great development, looking forward to this very useful module. Many thanks
Re: MIDI modules
Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2017 4:28 am
by JoPo
Excellent ! Computer soundcard driver are available in Scope (but doesn't always work perfectly...) and now, we are going to be able to choose any mini input directly in Scope !
Dragon, you're making very inovative stuff ! Great !
Re: MIDI modules
Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2017 7:20 am
by JoPo
Do you think it would be possible to make a midi delay ?
I believe it doesn't exist as far as I know... Not even a modular module.
A simple device that delays all midi data on its input with time settings, of course !
Let's say ... Hhhh ... Up to 1s maxi !?
This would be useful for sending exactly the same midi CC modulation to any other parameter but with exactly 150ms delay..!
It's not device ideas I miss but rather time to build them..!
Re: MIDI modules
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2017 12:08 am
by DragonSF
JoPo wrote:Dragon !
The ext. midiinput looks really useful ! I hope you'll release it as a module...!
When I load it into my Xite, I don't have any gui ! .... .... I guess you are still working on it ...
Some obstacle is happeing here: As soon as I make a module or putting the device into a surface, I can't connect the MIDI out anymore (and this is not my MIDI-out, it's the MIDI-out of a standard Scope module (Fifo to MIDI).
Re: MIDI modules
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2017 10:28 am
by JoPo
ArrrGh ! Very unfortunately, I can't help you at all about this !
Maybe some other developers could ?
Or you could ask on the sdk forum, I'm not sure it's pretty busy...
So ... This message is absolutely useless for you.... Hin hin ..
Sorry !
Re: MIDI modules
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2017 3:30 pm
by DragonSF
JoPo wrote:ArrrGh ! Very unfortunately, I can't help you at all about this !
Maybe some other developers could ?
Or you could ask on the sdk forum, I'm not sure it's pretty busy...
So ... This message is absolutely useless for you.... Hin hin ..
Sorry !
Thanks for recognizing my problems. I think the only one can help is Holger. But maybe I find a way around.
Re: MIDI modules
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2017 3:44 pm
by eric
Dragon,
Can you include support for polyphonic aftertouch/pressure?
This is a very neglected aspect of MIDI. Especially useful with Modular.
Eric
Re: MIDI modules
Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:30 am
by DragonSF
eric wrote:Dragon,
Can you include support for polyphonic aftertouch/pressure?
This is a very neglected aspect of MIDI. Especially useful with Modular.
Eric
My MIDI modules are completely transparent. I just pass everything the driver supplies to the output (with some clever buffering of course
). But nothing is filtered out.