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Re: some things are happening

Post by JoPo » Sun Dec 03, 2017 5:51 am

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spacef wrote:
JoPo wrote:I just send the news to french Audiofanzine to ask them to publish a news in their newsletter because I hope they don't have time to do that at S|C ! But I also told them that even if "soon", at S|C, can mean "years or decade", this time, they are using the same "soon" meaning ! :P

If all "Z" users would ask to his favorit audio stuff media or forum to spread the good word to the world ! That would be nice ! 8)
cool :-)
Unfortunately, I didn't see any news on Audiofanzine since that...... But now 7.0 is out, I going to contact them again. :)

And if S|C could lend a Xite unit to them, they could make a testing video in french to show to french music producer what is the power of Xite-1 + Scope ! Maybe someone could write to Holger ? Someone who knows him (more than me, at least...) and try to persuade him to lend a unit to Audiofanzine guys (like all other audio manufacturer do), they'll send it back to him and he'll certainly have some new customers...
Holger has for sure 1 or 2 Xite units for demonstrating...
.......................................................... DONE ! ..........................................................


Now, I'm wondering how I could convict S|C to lend a Xite-1 unit to Audiofanzine in order for them to make a test and release it on their site. Since 1 or 2 years, they also make video test about audio gears. Those videos are watched by around 10 000 people, which is not that bad for specific audio products. And it's only in France... There is certainly the same audio web site in all other countries... If some of you, living all around the world would ask to the respective most famous audio web site to add a news about Scope 7.0 in their next newsletter, it could help to increase people number who know S|C is still alive and started again to improve its products... :D

Think that the more SC is known, the more products they sell, the more developers they hire, the more they can improve Scope and even get back to the forefront of innovation!
It's a good way to help S|C to become more known for free ! As users, we should try to help our favorit audio platform ! :D

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Re: some things are happening

Post by spacef » Sun Dec 03, 2017 8:22 am

do you know their current adress? i used to live near them but not sure they are still there.

I just don't see them testing Xite the way it should be without someone who know Scope very well. They will not be able to focus on the strong points.

It is important to know that Scope suffers a LOT from the days of Creamware. Even in shops, i met people who used scope in the early 2000 and they still think it does not work well and is unstable. @Jopo you may have seen the post from a guy on audiofanzine saying it is "vaporware" , which is probably a heritage from the Creamware days, or too long period without update, but above all, someone who has not understood what scope is good for and choose to get rid of it and to hate it as much as possible (for any reason good or bad - i think it's a mac user). what is also needed, is to make it clear that Sonic Core is not Creamware and that SC is better. For that, you need everything to work fine (wave dest 64 bit for example).

but if they want to come in spacef studio to test it, they are welcome.

I agree People should do more videos of Xite/Scope in use, there are not a lot of them (too much talk in general - there are only two that are great - that I posted on audiofanzine)..

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Re: some things are happening

Post by JoPo » Sun Dec 03, 2017 10:29 am

I don't go that much on Audiofanzine forums. No idea where Audiofanzine is... Le siège social est à Montrouge, that's all I can see. I contacted them through their contact form. https://fr.audiofanzine.com/contact/ You'll find the "siège social" adress.

If many people still believe S|C = Creamware, it's one more reason to communicate as much as possible !

I'm not sure Audiofanzine guys would be lost in Scope. They test so many audio stuff and apparently, they take enough time to dig deeper in the product features. But for sure, if someone who knows Scope very well shows them how to use it, the test would be much better !
Anyway... First, I'm now waiting for their answer and for testing Xite-1, they need an unit ! I just hope S|C can lend them a demo one. And for the moment, I hope they'll add a news about Scope 7.0 on the next newsletter ! :wink:
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Re: some things are happening

Post by Music Manic » Mon Dec 04, 2017 11:17 am

Just ordered plus the SDK. Do they send us the keys or Gary?

P.S. Could someone point me in the right direction for learning the SDK. Is there a manual? Just want to create a few small routing devices.

Thanks

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Re: some things are happening

Post by ronnie » Mon Dec 04, 2017 11:47 am

https://www.kvraudio.com/submissions.php

https://www.kvraudio.com/developer_application.php

Someone at Sonic Core please sign up and spread the news. I contacted SOS.

I posted on KVR...

I contacted music-radar.

I challenged them: Newsworthy? Dinosaur or Phoenix?
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Re: some things are happening

Post by valis » Tue Dec 05, 2017 9:50 pm

ronnie wrote:https://www.kvraudio.com/submissions.php

https://www.kvraudio.com/developer_application.php

Someone at Sonic Core please sign up and spread the news. I contacted SOS.

I posted on KVR...

I contacted music-radar.

I challenged them: Newsworthy? Dinosaur or Phoenix?
Thank you Ronnie, excellent work

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Re: some things are happening

Post by Ripper » Wed Dec 06, 2017 2:31 am

Does anyone know if there is any plan about a true copperlan integration with the new Scope 7?
I'm aware it is working in Scope 7 as it is but as i know that Sonic-core has a Copperlan license it would be cool to see that license being used :P

Ps: Don't see this as a crazy guy trying to put more work over Holger's shoulders. :D

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Re: some things are happening

Post by JoPo » Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:39 am

Ripper wrote:Does anyone know if there is any plan about a true copperlan integration with the new Scope 7?
I'm aware it is working in Scope 7 as it is but as i know that Sonic-core has a Copperlan license it would be cool to see that license being used :P
Copperlan works fine with Scope 7, just like before with 5.1. You must FIRST start Scope THEN Copperlan service. I believe that as long as Scope is not loaded, windows doesn't "care" for Scope midi drivers.
I made a shortcut to the Copperlan service, and when Scope is running, I start it.
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Re: some things are happening

Post by Ripper » Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:30 am

JoPo wrote:
Ripper wrote:Does anyone know if there is any plan about a true copperlan integration with the new Scope 7?
I'm aware it is working in Scope 7 as it is but as i know that Sonic-core has a Copperlan license it would be cool to see that license being used :P
Copperlan works fine with Scope 7, just like before with 5.1. You must FIRST start Scope THEN Copperlan service. I believe that as long as Scope is not loaded, windows doesn't "care" for Scope midi drivers.
I made a shortcut to the Copperlan service, and when Scope is running, I start it.
I know that: I also have a shortcut for the service. :wink:

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Re: some things are happening

Post by JoPo » Sat Dec 09, 2017 1:49 am

Nada, niente, 何も, macache, nothing, rien, لا شيء, nichts, कुछ नहीं, walou, τίποτα, que dalle, 没什么, peau d'zob, 무 on the last Audiofanzine newsletter about Scope 7 !
Don't know how to wake up them.
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Re: some things are happening

Post by Refrochia » Sat Dec 09, 2017 7:37 pm

Ordered. Long live Scope

Anyone know if better control is still planned? IIRC OSC support was mentioned a long time ago or did I just make that up? Anyway, improved touch control support would be next level. Imagine being able to load up a device from an ipad and set / edit the routing. That would be a dream!

Actually, scratch that - sort the inputs out for the Xcite and I'll buy one (MADI)!! Cant move to xcite as it doesnt have enough inputs. Currently running 2xA16u and a 8xluna box via 2 pulsars. If only I could connect that to an Xcite!

Any news on either of those features?
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Re: some things are happening

Post by garyb » Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:49 pm

i'm pushing for madi and dante options.

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Re: some things are happening

Post by JoPo » Sun Dec 10, 2017 2:06 am

Refrochia wrote: Cant move to xcite as it doesnt have enough inputs. Currently running 2xA16u and a 8xluna box via 2 pulsars. If only I could connect that to an Xcite!
Do like me ! 2 pc : one with PCI's=plenty of I/O the other with Xite linked via ADAT... Or in the same pc, it works perfectly too.
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Re: some things are happening

Post by Bud Weiser » Sun Dec 10, 2017 7:47 am

garyb wrote:i'm pushing for madi and dante options.
Isn´t the count of I/O channels, analog and digital, set in stone w/ XITE-1´s architecture ?

I understand:

Z-Link = 16 I/O
ADAT x2 = 16 I/O

I´ve never read any report these were successfully usable simultaneously.
Are they ???
Instead I´ve read XITE had issues w/ 2x ADAT I/O already,- p.ex. w/ Ferrofish A16mkII (AE).
(I own 1 8-channel ADDA w/ ADAT only, so I was unable to test meyself)

AES I/O = 2 I/O

Analog I/O = 2 I/O
Mic/DI In = 2 additional inputs not being available for XITE-1D

To me that´s 38 inputs and 36 outputs at max.

Now, when we p.ex. got MADI,- I thought only the 18 (or 34,- see above) digital I/Os were assignable via MADI.
Means, they could be picked from a 32 or 64 I/O MADI data stream,- no ?

Or would MADI expand XITE-1´s usable digital I/Os ?

:)

Bud

P.S.:

I´d really like to know which quality 16 channel ADAT AD/DA would be usable w/ XITE-1 and SCOPE v7 now.
Anyone out there using actual gear and not only the old Creamware A16s and A16mkIIs ?
Something high quality stock, not modded Behringers ...

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Re: some things are happening

Post by garyb » Sun Dec 10, 2017 11:05 am

sure they're usable simultaneously!

XITE ADAT works great.
SOME users had problems with Ferrofish converters. i don't know what that's about. i have TWO A16mk2s and never had a problem.

modded Behrigers ARE high quality. :lol:
there are only a couple of different chips that do the AD/DA for EVERYBODY. if the audio path is upgraded, a cheapm converter is a high-end converter. except for the super-duper high-end stuff, NOBODY does an AD/DA from scratch anymore. even then, the choice is between 2 or 3 chips for the actual conversion. i have used many different AD/DAs with XITE from Avalon to RME to Ferrofish to Cranesong, to Behringer to Creamware.

MADI or Dante would be a small board that would replace the small Z-Link Board. since it's not made, don't get TOO excited about it yet.

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Re: some things are happening

Post by Bud Weiser » Sun Dec 10, 2017 8:17 pm

garyb wrote:sure they're usable simultaneously!
O.k., that that´s 34 digital I/Os on XITE-1 (ADAT / Z-Link & AES) ...

When MADI or Dante came,- what do we have then ?
That was the question.
I guess,- the same count of digital I/Os ...

Or more because it might be possible internally and in SCOPE environment, offering MADI I/O devices w/ up to 64 channels for In and Out ?
garyb wrote: XITE ADAT works great.
Yes, it also does w/ my Nuendo/RME which has only 8 channels ...
I´d need a 16 channel converter making an external mixer for ext. keyboards obsolete.
garyb wrote: SOME users had problems with Ferrofish converters. i don't know what that's about. i have TWO A16mk2s and never had a problem.
The Ferrofish was what I had originally in mind, yes,- but OTOH, I also don´t want to be one of the "some users having issues".
garyb wrote: modded Behrigers ARE high quality. :lol:
I know that, but buying such gear here and ship to BlackLion in the US and back is insane.
That´s why it´s no option for me.
In addition, for 16 channels I need 2 and that´s 2 HU.
I want the 16 channels in 1 HU and there aren´t so many options ...
garyb wrote: MADI or Dante would be a small board that would replace the small Z-Link Board. since it's not made, don't get TOO excited about it yet.
For sure a great addition to XITE !

:)

Bud

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