[resolved] Notion 6.1 crash with scope !

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Re: Notion 6.1 crash with scope !

Post by JoPo » Sat Feb 25, 2017 2:33 pm

But notion 6.0 works and 6.1 doesn't ??

Is n't asio a standard ?
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Re: Notion 6.1 crash with scope !

Post by ronnie » Sat Feb 25, 2017 4:22 pm

Use VM and don't unload the ASIO driver in the background... that defeats VM as multi-client.
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Re: Notion 6.1 crash with scope !

Post by ronnie » Sat Feb 25, 2017 4:32 pm

Use VM and don't unload the ASIO driver in the background... that defeats VM as multi-client. This sounds like the snarky PortAudio ASIO issue.
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Re: Notion 6.1 crash with scope !

Post by garyb » Sat Feb 25, 2017 4:33 pm

JoPo, it's a protocol.
unfortunately, many programmers are using options to set up the soundcard. since Scope cards aren't soundcards, but can be used as soundcards, they cannot communicate with the app in this way. it's the same reason that there's no control panel for the Scope card in the sequencer. unfortunately, the coders sometimes just assume that every will use a windows soundcard. it would be pretty easy to write the program so that if it could not set up the soundcard, it would time out and skip that function, but instead it just causes an error and the app ignores the driver.

i think the whole situation is pretty shitty, and it's definitely the fault of the program's writers, who take the attitude that any hardware which does not work in the way that would be best for the most amateur of amateurs is defective. the Scope cards are 100% ASIO compliant. it's the apps that won't work with any hardware not calculated and controlled by the CPU.

this never used to happen. for the app to setup the soundcard automatically takes extra programming, which isn't necessary to the correct operation of the app/driver/hardware communication. it's strictly about selling units to the most casual hobbyists. that's fine, but it drags everyone else down to that basic level of toyland and really limits options. of course, this only would matter to someone who was really interested in audio and interfacing audio and computers.

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Re: Notion 6.1 crash with scope !

Post by babaorum » Sun Feb 26, 2017 1:14 am

JoPo wrote:But notion 6.0 works and 6.1 doesn't ??

Is n't asio a standard ?
No, Notion 5 worked very well with ASIO Scope and since v6 it doesn't ...
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Re: Notion 6.1 crash with scope !

Post by babaorum » Sun Feb 26, 2017 1:30 am

ronnie wrote:Use VM and don't unload the ASIO driver in the background... that defeats VM as multi-client.
YES !!!! It works fine with VM, in rewire mode , I left Cubase with ASIO SCOPE drivers and put Notion with the VM drivers and
this morning it works in rewire mode !!!
Thanks a lot for your solution !
GREAT ! :)
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Re: [resolved] Notion 6.1 crash with scope !

Post by garyb » Sun Feb 26, 2017 2:00 am

i'm glad you were able to make it work!

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Re: [resolved] Notion 6.1 crash with scope !

Post by ronnie » Sun Feb 26, 2017 10:12 pm

To quote garyb. " :D "
"I’ve come to the conclusion that synths are like potatoes, they’re no good raw—you’ve got to cook ‘em, and I cooked these sounds for months before I got them to the point where they sounded musical to me." Lyle Mays

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