HELP ! VRC is crashing in Scope 5.1

[24bitMusic]

Hi! How can i solve this? It crashing when i try to start it....I have had this problem all the time


Lasse// Sweden

[RA]

Can you load it in an empty project, and does it still crash?

[astroman]

I've made a post in Tech Talk section about this.
under Win7 it should work, under XP it fails most likely due to .NET incompatibilities
(some features don't work as intended - it's a Microsoft thing, not Sonic Core's)
imho it can't be solved under XP - I experience that myself

cheers, Tom

[Music Manic]

Tom is there a way to sync VRC to a DAW by Midi or other clock?

Thanks

[astroman]

according to the original Scope docs it should be straight...
never used that myself, but if the DAW sends/reacts to MTC/SMTPE timecode VDAT follows and vice versa
using sequencer source/destination for communication iirc

(you may have to check/set delays or pre/post roll-times and subframe size)
in my DAW it offered 0-400 subframes
don't know if VDAT (VRC) time display is corrected by software
the original must be set to 48k samplerate, otherwise the display shows wrong values

good luck... Tom

[mausmuso]

Tom is there a way to sync VRC to a DAW by Midi or other clock?

Thanks

In SCOPE XITE 5.1, I have not been able to sync via midi to Cubase, Samplitude or Reaper.
I have been able to sync to SAM and (I think from memory) to Reaper via ASIO Clock (SCOPE as the master).
It's all a bit academic though, as VDAT has connection issues if you go beyond 8 channels, which takes away my intended use of the SCOPE recording system.
maus

[astroman]

page 19 of the VRC manual provides the details...
I would expect both MTC + Asio 2 for sync with (required) the VRC device, not just Asio 2
(MTC down to frames, subframes derived from Asio clock)
unfortunately the VRC crashes on my XP system, so I can't try it

but it's pretty obvious that VDAT isn't fully implemented up to specs... some grains of salt...

cheers, Tom

[dante]

Tom is there a way to sync VRC to a DAW by Midi or other clock?

Thanks

I think Adern had something called Clock2Click - is that still around ?

[astroman]

it's actually been asked before:
http://forums.planetz.com/viewtopic.php ... 1&p=244727
the MTC/Asio2 combination as written in the manual worked...
but only after the poster removed a huge MTC offset in VRC
the system looked hanging, but was just waiting for that 1 hour to pass

clock2click is certainly useful to track some individual parts in sync, but not for song positioning
it's still around in the 'Scope Freebie Collection'

syncing VRC/VDAT should be sample accurate as that's what Adats were
but those tape-machines received (studio) hardware midi clock, not some desktop OS generated...
so real world results may vary

cheers, Tom

[astroman]

news: looks like the crash is much less severe than expected...
by chance I noticed that M$'s Visual Studio debugger (when running) will catch Scope up from the background
so I loaded VRC, which stalled as expected
as this happened right after a branch instruction, I gave it a shot and and pointed it manually to the destination
... and there was the surface of VRC

tried a couple of things, created some markers - all running well, saved the projects as VRC Test
quit Scope, launched with it's usual startup project and then loaded the Test ...
VRC still working
I wouldn't recommand to save it connected to VDAT, tho - it may start nonsense on an active tape

a crude approach with warranties whatsoever - but it worked a couple of times
the crash locationed remained identical, so it should be fixable... probably just a messed or missing parameter

cheers, Tom

ps after some use: the device loads, but is far from stable operation - wouldn't consider the workaround a fix at all
(more an indication that it may be fixed... )