SFP-noob question

DaveC2007 · Post by **DaveC2007** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 4:21 am

This might be fairly simple, I want to use programs like Sound Forge,
Windows Media Player, etc. without having to launch SFP.
Is this possible?
If so do I need specific wave-drivers?

Thanks!

Counterparts · Post by **Counterparts** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 5:04 am

As long as you use another sound card, yes no problem.

If you wish to use the Scope card(s), then you'll have to set-up some basic routing which means you'll need to run the SFP software in order to achieve this.

DaveC2007 · Post by **DaveC2007** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 5:56 am

bummer, so every time I want to use Sound Forge, I have to launch SFP.
I run Logic in XTC-mode because I don't need the scope mixer.
thanks anyway!

voidar · Post by **voidar** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 7:17 am

You can load a WDM (wave source) in your XTC project. When Logic is loaded (in XTC-mode) you will be able to use it (soundforge etc.).

Post by **garyb** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 11:41 am

SFP is the best part!

voidar · Post by **voidar** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 12:30 pm

I find XTC-mode very usefull and accurate. Best of all, phase-delays due to DSP-board jump is eliminated with PDC. and you can always combine XTC-mode with Scope mixing/summing.

manfriday · Post by **manfriday** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 12:37 pm

you can always combine XTC-mode with Scope mixing/summing.

You can?
Im still pretty new to this, so forgive the question if it is dumb..
But doesnt scope complain if you try to start XTC plugins with SFP loaded?

voidar · Post by **voidar** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 12:57 pm

You will need to load a mixer in your XTCproject and connect it via ASIO/WDM-channels in the way you want to use it before firing up your sequencer.
Mixers with the .DEV-extension must be renamed to .MDL-extension before they are loaded/dragged into your XTCproject.
Also the mixer panel must be open when you save your XTCproject after editing or else it won't show up.

If you accidentaly close the mixers panel in Logic you will either have to restart Logic or recall it via a MIDI-controller assignment on the mixers X (close) button.
This must be pre-assigned in your XTCproject.

I like Shroomz 12 channel valve mixer for combining with XTC-mode. It can be completely freed from DSP via a touch of a button, so it is available when I need it at mixdown.

If you want to save mixer settings you will either have to use the mixers patch-system or you will have to use MIDI controller assignments and store an "init"-state in your Logic project.
These must be pre-assigned in your XTCproject.

voidar · Post by **voidar** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 1:03 pm

Another positive thing with this is that the mixer is one of the first things that (should be) loads and this increases sample-accuracy. Unless you re-organize your DSP @ DSP overload errors or use the mixer inserts, you can presume them to be sample-accurate. Just remember to save them with "phase-comp" enabled.

Post by **hubird** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 1:18 pm

manfriday wrote:
you can always combine XTC-mode with Scope mixing/summing.
You can?
Im still pretty new to this, so forgive the question if it is dumb..
But doesnt scope complain if you try to start XTC plugins with SFP loaded?

I don't think Voidar meant it that way, as you -indeed- can't run XTC with SFP 'opened'.
see Voidar's next post explaining how to handle loading mixers inside XTC.
Btw, Scope is active working in XTC, as the DSP's are loaded according to the loads in your XTC project, it's running ín the background'somehow.
(correct me if I'm wrong guys, as no XTC on mac).